Starfleet Jedi

Okay, so during this war that arose from the Pandora scenario, Q decides to have some fun (oh boy), and replicates all three empires as they are in said Pandora scenario, (still at war with one another), and sends these duplicates into four different universes. These universes are:
Babylon 5 Universe (Just after the Shadows and Vorlons left)
Firefly Universe (Right before the events in "Serenity")
nBSG Universe (Just before the Fall)
Outlaw Star Universe (During Episode 12)

What are the repurcussions?

Note: Each universe gets all three empires. I don't just mean the Pandoran expeditions of each, I mean the full might of each empire.

Umm... Goodbye Pandora I guess...

PunkMaister wrote:Umm... Goodbye Pandora I guess...

I meant the repurcussions in these other universes, now that they have to deal with this three-way war.

Well, it's pretty bad for the relatively low-tech and firepower Firefly, nu-BSG and B5 'verses as the other three are so far beyond them. Without the deus ex machina First Ones to come to the aid of the Young races it's a near cakewalk. Same goes for nu-BSG; without the direct intervention of "God", the Cylons and Colonials alike can only hope to join up with various sides and hope to get as much technology as possible in the process.


Outlaw Star is a different matter all together as they aren't so much technological giants, but they have very powerful supernatural abilities in the form of things like the Tao magic, the Galactic Leyline, and Caster guns. And who in their right mind would go up in infantry combat against the Ctarl-Ctarl? I mean, look at what one of them, Aisha Clanclan can do on her own!
-Mike

Outlaw Star? What's that?

Outlaw Star is an anime series set in a Lensman/Star Wars over-the-top pulp space opera-style universe. The article here at Wikipedia.
-Mike

Mike DiCenso wrote: And who in their right mind would go up in infantry combat against the Ctarl-Ctarl? I mean, look at what one of them, Aisha Clanclan can do on her own!
-Mike

That's one thing that I thought would be interesting. Suppose these races try to ally themselves with the Ctarl-Ctarl.

On a different note, Worf vs. Teal'c vs. Zeratul vs. Aisha would be a very fun fight to watch.

Mike DiCenso wrote: Same goes for nu-BSG; without the direct intervention of "God", the Cylons and Colonials alike can only hope to join up with various sides and hope to get as much technology as possible in the process.
-Mike

But once they have the tech, how do you think they'll use it? That could start a whole new scenario.

Khas wrote:

Mike DiCenso wrote: And who in their right mind would go up in infantry combat against the Ctarl-Ctarl? I mean, look at what one of them, Aisha Clanclan can do on her own!
-Mike

That's one thing that I thought would be interesting. Suppose these races try to ally themselves with the Ctarl-Ctarl.

On a different note, Worf vs. Teal'c vs. Zeratul vs. Aisha would be a very fun fight to watch.

No, it would not. Aisha in even a half-transformation mode would make very short work of those other guys unless they resorted to some very serious cheating and guile. The Klingons, if they were devious enough, could win it by using transporters to beam her or any Ctarl-Ctarl out into space on wide-dispersal, effectively killing them. But otherwise Aisha wins. The Ctarl-Ctarl are too freaking tough and powerful. Only other Outlaw Star powers, like the Tao magic of the pirates allow them hold their own against them. Remeber that Gene Starwind fired a caster round at her point-blank and all it did was stun her for a while, and muss her up a bit.
-Mike

Khas wrote:

Mike DiCenso wrote: Same goes for nu-BSG; without the direct intervention of "God", the Cylons and Colonials alike can only hope to join up with various sides and hope to get as much technology as possible in the process.
-Mike

But once they have the tech, how do you think they'll use it? That could start a whole new scenario.

The rag-tag fleet of Colonials' only hope would be to ally with the Protoss as I don't see the other powers doing much other than either outright killing them off or total enslavement and oppression. The Cylons? Why would anyone ally with them in the first place? Why not just blow them all up good and steal the only real technological cool things in the nBSG 'verse; resurrection tech and jump drive tech.
-Mike

Mike DiCenso wrote: The rag-tag fleet of Colonials' only hope would be to ally with the Protoss as I don't see the other powers doing much other than either outright killing them off or total enslavement and oppression. The Cylons? Why would anyone ally with them in the first place? Why not just blow them all up good and steal the only real technological cool things in the nBSG 'verse; resurrection tech and jump drive tech.
-Mike

As I said, this takes place before the fall, so I was under the impression that the Cylons and the Colonials would be too distracted by the KJP to attack each other.

Mike DiCenso wrote:No, it would not. Aisha in even a half-transformation mode would make very short work of those other guys unless they resorted to some very serious cheating and guile. The Klingons, if they were devious enough, could win it by using transporters to beam her or any Ctarl-Ctarl out into space on wide-dispersal, effectively killing them. But otherwise Aisha wins. The Ctarl-Ctarl are too freaking tough and powerful. Only other Outlaw Star powers, like the Tao magic of the pirates allow them hold their own against them. Remeber that Gene Starwind fired a caster round at her point-blank and all it did was stun her for a while, and muss her up a bit.
-Mike

Okay, I think I might have figured out how the battle might go, but by all means, correct me if I've screwed up.

Worf and Teal'c would try to fight her "honorably", but in the end would get killed. Zeratul is another matter altoghether. Like all Dark Templar, he can cloak himself, and might even force Aisha into beast form due to her inability to see him. In which case, he jumps on her back, and gives her a warp blade right to the base of the neck, which should kill her. If not, then it's time to go "The Die is Cast" on whatever planet it takes place on.

A lot depends on where the fight takes place and at what time of the year since Alisha's power is largerly dependent on the phase of the moon (or moons), as well as if she has an ample supply of food to eat after a fight. If she fights Teal'c first, and uses up a good deal of energy in fighting him, Worf or Zeratul can then come in and finish her off. But if Aisha is not only on a planet with lots of moons and they're in full phase, she'll be nigh-unstoppable by any of those three. So lots of varibles here to consider.
-Mike

Mike DiCenso wrote:A lot depends on where the fight takes place and at what time of the year since Alisha's power is largerly dependent on the phase of the moon (or moons), as well as if she has an ample supply of food to eat after a fight. If she fights Teal'c first, and uses up a good deal of energy in fighting him, Worf or Zeratul can then come in and finish her off. But if Aisha is not only on a planet with lots of moons and they're in full phase, she'll be nigh-unstoppable by any of those three. So lots of varibles here to consider.
-Mike

Okay, the planet has three moons, one of which is full, another is crescent, and the third is a potato-shaped remnant of a larger moon that exploded and at one time formed the planet's ring system, but all the debris has fallen down to the planet by now, except for that chunk. It is currently in a "gibbous"(?) phase. However, all Aisha has had to eat is a peanut butter sandwich.


On a different note, what do you think would happen if they were on a moon?

Without substantial food sources, Aisha will get her butt kicked. As for the moon question... who knows. It was never addressed in any way in the original series. And no Ctarl-Ctarl were ever shown in the god-awful horrible spin off series "Angel Links" (a.k.a Angel Tits to most fans).
-Mike