5 Reasons Star Wars Sequels would be worse than prequels
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Re: 5 Reasons Star Wars Sequels would be worse than prequels
Heh, that article pretty well sums up what's wrong with the Expanded Universe.
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Re: 5 Reasons Star Wars Sequels would be worse than prequels
the bouncing ball jedi master defeated Sidious finally in the end
it wasn't the star child spawned from a slaves loins by the force itself nor was it his son who was the embodiment of everything said jesus analog could of been and in the end of the films succeeded
noo it was bouncing ball man
bouncing ball..man
it wasn't the star child spawned from a slaves loins by the force itself nor was it his son who was the embodiment of everything said jesus analog could of been and in the end of the films succeeded
noo it was bouncing ball man
bouncing ball..man
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Re: 5 Reasons Star Wars Sequels would be worse than prequels
Some points are valid, but do absolutely not support the initial claim.
There are problems with point 5 for instance. He's presenting a logical case, but actually brings nothing that shows how it's bad or would have sucked if done as movies.
Point 4, sure. Now, is it as bad as Death Star II, bigger and meaner, with "visible underwears!!" ?
Point 3. Some advice. If you're going to talk about sequels... perhaps not using a prequel game would help prove your point. That said, he's totally right about the abundance of random Jedi. That completely makes the idea of Luke being so special completely moot. So to make him super duper, by being the son of Anakin, Anakin had to be the Jedi with the mostest higherest superiorestnessive midichlorydrablaarians.
Yuk.
Still, the problem isn't really the period, but Lucas. The OT is superior because he had less control on it.
Quite dramatically, it's important to consider how Jedi appear first. If it were only a question of having Jedi parents, this would have obviously been a mess all too soon. Heck, why didn't Obi Wan have seks? I mean, there surely were some chicks Obi Wan could... meet?
And Yoda? With all that mud everywhere, think of the possibilities!
Point 2, yeah. It got so terrible that they laughed about it themselves. On the other hand, it's expected that with the ability to pull super weapons out of the blue that fast, some plans had to slip through some hands. It's hard to think that the only geniuses in the galaxy worked on the Death Star and stopped existing afterward. It's even more dumb if you're convinced that the Death Star is just more of the same laser gun, but oversized.
Point 1. He thinks the new *yawn* Sith Empire sucks big balls? He hasn't seen the prequels, far in the past, with those red stormtroopers wearing helmets looking like buckets.
Now, is that proof that the sequels would have sucked?
I read several books of the NJO, and they were quite good, honestly. Plus, by far, with everything compared and as a strictly post-ROTJ era series, the Thrawn Trilogy really was what fell the more like Star Wars.
However, since we don't know when the sequels would have taken place... if Lucas wanted another typical Greek storytelling, then the construction of a new Jedi Order by Luke Skywalker would be the way to go, if possible, charged choke full of irony.
Don't ask, but I believe all fans still want to see the old cast make a return. I may scream like a little fangurl if I saw the camera slowly approaching a hooded man, only to have this guy reveal his head and be Hamill, with a beard.
There are problems with point 5 for instance. He's presenting a logical case, but actually brings nothing that shows how it's bad or would have sucked if done as movies.
Point 4, sure. Now, is it as bad as Death Star II, bigger and meaner, with "visible underwears!!" ?
Point 3. Some advice. If you're going to talk about sequels... perhaps not using a prequel game would help prove your point. That said, he's totally right about the abundance of random Jedi. That completely makes the idea of Luke being so special completely moot. So to make him super duper, by being the son of Anakin, Anakin had to be the Jedi with the mostest higherest superiorestnessive midichlorydrablaarians.
Yuk.
Still, the problem isn't really the period, but Lucas. The OT is superior because he had less control on it.
Quite dramatically, it's important to consider how Jedi appear first. If it were only a question of having Jedi parents, this would have obviously been a mess all too soon. Heck, why didn't Obi Wan have seks? I mean, there surely were some chicks Obi Wan could... meet?
And Yoda? With all that mud everywhere, think of the possibilities!
Point 2, yeah. It got so terrible that they laughed about it themselves. On the other hand, it's expected that with the ability to pull super weapons out of the blue that fast, some plans had to slip through some hands. It's hard to think that the only geniuses in the galaxy worked on the Death Star and stopped existing afterward. It's even more dumb if you're convinced that the Death Star is just more of the same laser gun, but oversized.
Point 1. He thinks the new *yawn* Sith Empire sucks big balls? He hasn't seen the prequels, far in the past, with those red stormtroopers wearing helmets looking like buckets.
Now, is that proof that the sequels would have sucked?
I read several books of the NJO, and they were quite good, honestly. Plus, by far, with everything compared and as a strictly post-ROTJ era series, the Thrawn Trilogy really was what fell the more like Star Wars.
However, since we don't know when the sequels would have taken place... if Lucas wanted another typical Greek storytelling, then the construction of a new Jedi Order by Luke Skywalker would be the way to go, if possible, charged choke full of irony.
Don't ask, but I believe all fans still want to see the old cast make a return. I may scream like a little fangurl if I saw the camera slowly approaching a hooded man, only to have this guy reveal his head and be Hamill, with a beard.
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Re: 5 Reasons Star Wars Sequels would be worse than prequels
I'm not so sure I want to see an old Carrie Fisher, though... :)
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Well, a roughed up CF, with some makeup and a senatorial suit giving her some presence, plus a serious role, would work as far as I'm concerned.Praeothmin wrote:I'm not so sure I want to see an old Carrie Fisher, though... :)
Hamill would be 60 in September 25. Quite a good time to play the old wizard.
Both would seriously need to lose some fat, but that's quite the easy part of it.
The hardest is to give them good lines some roles people would care about. Plus there would be a need to have a new group of young people.
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I'd like to see a Zack Snyder version of SW, or perhaps even a Kenneth Brannagh version...
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that'd involve guys like Micheal Clark Duncan as sith lords and Jackie "rorsach" earl as the dark lordPraeothmin wrote:I'd like to see a Zack Snyder version of SW, or perhaps even a Kenneth Brannagh version...
I can live with that
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Well, no one said that the EU had to be followed. In fact I'd completely scrap it and go another way that would close the whole Jedi/Sith thing in some epic form.
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The problem with all of this is that sequel movies just won't happen. Lucas himself has said that after RoTJ there is no more story to tell that is worthwhile. Everyone got to live happily ever after once balance was restored to the Force. Will movies be made after Lucas dies? Possibly, if they can find a way around Lucas' provision that no sequel movies are to be made.
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Didn't he say the saga was complete after ROTS?Mike DiCenso wrote:The problem with all of this is that sequel movies just won't happen. Lucas himself has said that after RoTJ there is no more story to tell that is worthwhile. Everyone got to live happily ever after once balance was restored to the Force. Will movies be made after Lucas dies? Possibly, if they can find a way around Lucas' provision that no sequel movies are to be made.
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That's pretty much what I said. I can't find the exact quote, but Lucas made a quip that after RoTJ there is no story because Han and Leia inviting everyone to cookouts at their house every weekend wasn't worth telling, or something to that effect.
It's your typical fairytale ending, which is appropriate given that Star Wars is really a fantasy epic set against a sci-fi backdrop.
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It's your typical fairytale ending, which is appropriate given that Star Wars is really a fantasy epic set against a sci-fi backdrop.
-Mike