First Death star shields

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Re: First Death star shields

Post by Praeothmin » Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:49 pm

Mr. Oragahn wrote:They didn't flare up when hit.
Really?
I guess I'll have to suffer through Jar-Jar tonight then to verify... :)
Not that I don't trust you Mr. O., it's just that any excuse to see Darth Maul fight again is valid... ;)

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Re: First Death star shields

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Sat Sep 12, 2009 5:18 pm

Praeothmin wrote:
Mr. Oragahn wrote:They didn't flare up when hit.
Really?
I guess I'll have to suffer through Jar-Jar tonight then to verify... :)
Lol. Well yeah, there's probably that Jar Jar free version flying around internet.
The sequence is just after Jar Jar and the other general Tapals surrender.
But if you have an avi of the movie, I'd suggest something like virtuadub.
Not that I don't trust you Mr. O., it's just that any excuse to see Darth Maul fight again is valid... ;)
Any excuse is good enough to watch that battle. It may be flashy, but TPM has the best lightsabre scenes, perhaps along the cripple one from ANH that is realistic enough in terms of Kendo.

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Re: First Death star shields

Post by Praeothmin » Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:45 pm

Mr. Oragahn wrote:perhaps along the cripple one from ANH that is realistic enough in terms of Kendo.
Have you watched the latest "Special Edition" of ANH?
That fight has been extended, and Obi-Wan looks better, and the entire choreography has been improved.
I've always felt that that fight represented the pinnacle of fighting.
Two masters, using the minimum necessary energy, and the straightest paths to score hits.
It was, compared to the prequel fights, an efficiency in spent energy, and an economy in movements...

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Re: First Death star shields

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:48 pm

Praeothmin wrote:
Mr. Oragahn wrote:perhaps along the cripple one from ANH that is realistic enough in terms of Kendo.
Have you watched the latest "Special Edition" of ANH?
That fight has been extended, and Obi-Wan looks better, and the entire choreography has been improved.
I've always felt that that fight represented the pinnacle of fighting.
Two masters, using the minimum necessary energy, and the straightest paths to score hits.
It was, compared to the prequel fights, an efficiency in spent energy, and an economy in movements...
I have the SE on some video tape I can't watch anymore, but I had blurry memories of the original version. The combat from the SE I could watch back then was relatively sober, with only one spin on Obi-Wan's part.

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Re: First Death star shields

Post by Praeothmin » Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:49 pm

Mr. Oragahn wrote:The combat from the SE I could watch back then was relatively sober, with only one spin on Obi-Wan's part.
Exactly, in the SE fight, Obi-Wan only does one spin, and the rest of the fight is pretty much both opponents trying to use the least amount of energy to find the straightest possible path to the other...

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Re: First Death star shields

Post by Mith » Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:40 pm

Sunburst wrote:Sorry, but that's a load of crap.

In every battle in the movies fighters get through the shields. In Return of the Jedi there are multiple instances of fighters damaging star destroyers. In Ep I Annie flies through the the docking bay. In Ep III, Annie destroys an unprotected shield generator to gain access to the docking bay. And the very example in the original post states that the fighters flew right to the death star's surface.

The Star Wars movies have yet to show capital ships will shields the encompass the entire surface of the ship. There's far more evidence that shows that such shields don't exist.

The idea that the shields were already down from some other means, is silly. At best star wars capital ship shields are useless because of all the times where they are shown as ineffective.
SW ships have constantly shown the ability to use ray shields, which seems to stop energy weapons, but not physical objects. You can see this in the Clone Wars Movie. There are shields that block objects, but they seem incredibly limited, mostly to shuttle bays, security fields, and deflecting asteroids. For the most part, ships seem to physically be able to ineract with the other and fighters can seemingly penetrate.

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