Mike DiCenso wrote:All right, this has gone on far enough. I cut some slack because you were doing fairly good for a while there, KSW, but no more. You are being given a warning for your current behavior, and if you continue to do so, I'll just keep giving you a warning until you are banned. This time it will be a permaban since the rules call for anyone banned longer than a year's time to be stepped up to that.
You need to knock off not only with the insults, but also show your evidence. As it is, when you do show something, it is very flimsy. A starship's phasers do not equal a supernova, black hole, or star. Also the EU states this and other bodies effect hyperspace through mass shadows as has been pointed out to you repeatedly.
-Mike
And I've ANSWERED it repeatedly, only to receive evasive quibbling in responnse that "phasers are nadions not gravitons" and other non-sequitur arguments which completely ignore that Starfleet can generate gravitons on a whim.
Pardon me if I don't make 3-page arguments that go in circles, like some others; I don't beat dead issues into the ground, or like to repeat myself ad nauseum, and so I tend to get PO'ed when noobs force me to do so.
The notion of a ship moving faster than its weapons, is fairly absurd in itself; we can see quite clearly onscreen as in "Balance of Terror," "Journey to babel" etc. that phasers move many times in excess of Warp 9, that phasers are used by ships at speeds as high as Warp 10. The very idea of phasers moving lightspeed is awkward at best in explaining how that would work; it would be like fighter-jets trying to drop bombs on each other at Mack 3!
Likewise, I challenge you to show evidence behind your statements that Starfleet's weapons and technology (tractors, deflectors etc) project less graviton-intensity than a star over the area of impact. Deflectors DO travel faster than the ship, as is necessary to sweep debris from the ship's path with nav-deflectors; and battle-deflectors are even more powerful.
Also again, a star's gravity cannot be greater than 28,000 G's at any given point, and so a starship should be able to project that much intensity in a focused beam by the main deflector. over a small area for a brief instant.
A hyperdriven ship moves at least 20,000C,which is 6.0E+12m/s, while a star is about 1.5E+6m in diameter, leaving a maximum period of only of 2.5E-7 seconds of impact, at an intensity of less than 28,000G's.
That seems reasonable for a Starship to be able to be able to manufacture a graviton-pulse of that magnitude for that duration., requiring only 12 Joules per ton of ship affected.
