Kuat Drive Yards and the big Corellian ships

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Post by Airlocke_Jedi_Knight » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:13 pm

Mike DiCenso wrote:
Airlocke_Jedi_Knight wrote: I should point out that this novelization was written George Lucas in 1976, one year before the release of ANH. I own a copy.
More correctly, it was ghost written by Alan Dean Foster and published in December 1976. The movies have a higher level of canonicity in the official hierarchy.
-Mike

I was unaware that it was ghost written. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:49 pm

Airlocke_Jedi_Knight wrote:You have made an assumption that we see no Corellian made ships, that is not true. We see corellian corvettes in ANH and ROJ. Tantive IV is a modified corellian corvette. Based on the engineering of these ships, the Star Destroyers cannot be corellian. The engineering style is completely different. The weapons emplacements are even different. They use different styles of weapons.

Han Solo is not as coldly calculating as you make him out to be. Watch the movies. He is always going off half-cocked and spouting dribble out of his mouth. He is not very intelligent, and very reckless. He is a dirty smuggler, why would he care what they did or did not know? They were potential customers and he said what he had to to bag them. Also, would Han Solo not have said "I can outrun from Star Destroyers!", if he wanted to impress them? According to your interpretation of Han Solos thinking Luke and Ben to be "backwoodsmen"(on a desert planet, btw), why would he assume that they knew where the Star Destroyers were made? They are not Imperials and as you(WILGA) have said, there is no proof that they know where Corellia is. No, he would not have named the manufacturer unless he had more information(or was spouting of prideful dribble) and knew that they would recognize it. If he were talking about the Star Destroyers, he would definitely have mentioned them by name, as you have said, they are what the Imperial Navy was known for.

Using that information, we have to assume that these Corellian ships, are in fact, NOT the Star Destroyers.
The problem is that the movie defines the greater than local bulk-cruisers big ships as Imperial ships.

They are basically:

- Well known to be relevant as an example to rednecks.
- Imperial ships.
- Big, and bigger than local bulk-cruisers.
- Corellian.

What we don't know, from the movie, is what Corellian means.

Obviously, Corellian cannot refer to a faction, or maybe it is a subfaction, a caste, a military branch that uses a given type of ships.
Or then a design class, a group of ships made either there or at a given time, or part of a given series.

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Post by Mr. Oragahn » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:02 pm

Airlocke_Jedi_Knight wrote:You are being unreasonable. You are taking a rather obscure comment, make liberal assumptions and stretching many truths(not to mention contradicting yourself on occasion) for the sole purpose of discrediting Star Wars canon. I see no end to this argument because I can't definitively disprove you, and truth be told, there isn't enough information to prove your point while working within the canon universe and avoiding the EU. This argument is a moot point because you are going to continue to argue unless there is no way around it. It is pointless, the point can't be proved wrong or right beyond any doubt. It is for this reason that I concede(although I do not feel that I have been defeated) to avoid unnecessary head aches.
I don't know what you mean by obscure, but if you're talking about Han's comment, then it is certainly not.

I can't even start to comprehend how one would call that obscure.
It's clear, direct and has been voiced out loud by a main character in a very intelligible way, in the face of tens of thousands of theater audiences.

If it has to be one thing, it's clearly ignored by lower sources and I'm afraid the inconsistency is simply too vast to be repaired now.

Besides, as Mike proved it, the movie clearly trumps the novelization on this point.

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