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Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:02 am
by 2046
A recent blog posting I made about runabouts reminded me of an old idea I once pondered for fun. (And by the way, I'm not sure where to put this, so I stuck it here . . . feel free to move it if needed.)

Suppose you could redesign your car (or any modern vehicle of your choice) with canon Starfleet technology, but it still had to look like (and basically function like) a modern-day automobile. As analogy, imagine you're a Gary Seven sort of dude from the 24th Century, and you want to avoid that silly traffic accident thing that killed those other agents. For kicks you could even throw in some Knight Rider-esque tech, or whatever you wanted.

If you prefer, you may use Star Wars technology instead, or both if you're feeling frisky.

For mine:

I would make the outer shell a thin sheet of duranium, which IIRC is the lighter metal (tritanium being more dense), with the frame being the same. Done properly, I imagine you might be able to stay within the weight limits of a real car, while probably having a great deal more strength. Transparent aluminum for all the glass, of course.

For the engine I'd want to use some sort of small fusion reactor or similar, and you could probably use off-the-shelf modern hybrid electric car components for much of this. The fusion reactor could be in place of the gasoline engine in modern cars. (Extra points if you use Star Wars "diesel fusion" tech so you can put gas in it!) Sarium krellide power cells in place of lithium ion, of course (assuming they're canon). And if you need proper engine noise, dampen the real sounds and install an off-the-shelf sound system that replicates real engines (yes, those exist, so that the rice-burners can make 8-cylinder Detroit sound effects).

Assuming that the powerplant is far more powerful than any modern system, you'll probably want to do something with the undercarriage . . . replacing gears and/or upgrading electric motors. Personally, I'd try to make sure the whole engine assembly fit in the central hump/console area so the areas under the hood and trunk / rear hatch are wide open for whatever other equipment is desired.

Inertial dampeners and antigrav tech are the crowning achievement here, for several reasons. First, on the inside you can use them to make even psychotic-speed accidents (or rammings) safe for the occupants. Second, you could make the vehicle capable of absurd turns. Imagine doing a hairpin turn at 200mph because you can . . . tires never losing grip due to the car acting like it's in a 20g environment, and you not being smushed against the side.

Speaking of tires, you'll wanna do something about those, too. Such a maneuver as above would certainly blow any tire now known.

The interior should probably be kept relatively close to stock, in case you need to make it through a checkpoint or have passengers who do not need to know what's up. I'd have a little LCARS panel in front of the sunroof that required some trick to make active.

That panel could control sensors and whatnot . . . one wouldn't want to get caught doing 200mph, would one? Even merely being seen on a traffic camera could be bad. Options here include applying cloaking technology or some other identity-obscuring technology for the vehicle, at least against electronic measures like cameras or radar.

And, of course, no geek wank would be complete without arming the thing. Phasers and microtorpedoes with some sort of steering wheel firing control (cleverly disguised as cruise control or radio controls or something else innocuous) would be my choice there, with some sort of targeting system based on where I'm looking, as well as options for sending a torpedo into structures for specific-room knockouts.

A small transporter would be a nice touch, too, though this works best if you're doing it all in a van. (Indeed, a full-size van would be incredibly pimp for this purpose.)

That's the basic stuff I can come up with. What do you want yours to have?

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 1:05 am
by Cocytus
"Samarian Sunset, shaken, not stirred"

Tetraburnium alloy panels for the body.

Given how extrememly tiny some of these shuttlecraft are nowadays, I don't see why the thing couldn't have an M/AM reactor to power it.

Ablative armor generator. Makes me impervious to weapons fire in a pinch, and I can ram through barricades without scratching my paint job.

Holoprojector. Can make my car look like a police cruiser, an Aston Martin, an Edsel, change the paint color, on and on. Gives me a driver in case I need to remote pilot the thing without arousing suspicion. Also works on the interior to keep passengers in the dark as to the car's true nature.

Cloaking device, definitely. The phase cloak developed in "Pegasus" could easily go in a trunk or under the rear seats.

Transporter. Working with a transponder hidden on or in my body, can transport me out of trouble, (like, say, get me out of a runaway Rio cablecar) Don't know if I could actually beam the car itself (if I drove off a cliff, say) since those transporter poles from TNG and the smaller version from Voyager don't beam themselves.

Finally, mount one of those rotary phaser turrents from DS9 on the roof, flush-mounted and designed to screw out. Gives me a 360 degree field of fire.

And lastly, I obviously need a flux capacitor to handle all my jiggawatts :)

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 5:22 am
by 2046
Cocytus wrote:Ablative armor generator. Makes me impervious to weapons fire in a pinch, and I can ram through barricades without scratching my paint job.

It occurred to me after I posted initially that I'd forgotten things like shields (dur!), but I giggled to myself when I thought about the Voyager armor. After all, it would be going from Batmobile to Starship and now back to Batmobile (depending on one's Halloween costume).

I strongly approve of both replicator (dunno where to hide it, but yeah) and especially the holoprojector. (Hell, as long as you don't *have* to have the glowy bits of the replicator showing, I see no reason you couldn't have it make stuff right on your dash. How's that for not wasting space?)

As for the transporter, Picard's little button-sized one could beam him and itself (however the hell that worked), so I see no reason why you couldn't have a self-beaming car. That would be profound for getting out of traffic. Good call!

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:37 pm
by Praeothmin
2046 wrote:
Cocytus wrote:Ablative armor generator. Makes me impervious to weapons fire in a pinch, and I can ram through barricades without scratching my paint job.

It occurred to me after I posted initially that I'd forgotten things like shields (dur!), but I giggled to myself when I thought about the Voyager armor. After all, it would be going from Batmobile to Starship and now back to Batmobile (depending on one's Halloween costume).

I strongly approve of both replicator (dunno where to hide it, but yeah) and especially the holoprojector. (Hell, as long as you don't *have* to have the glowy bits of the replicator showing, I see no reason you couldn't have it make stuff right on your dash. How's that for not wasting space?)

As for the transporter, Picard's little button-sized one could beam him and itself (however the hell that worked), so I see no reason why you couldn't have a self-beaming car. That would be profound for getting out of traffic. Good call!
The replicator, my dear 2046, would of course be the glove compartment... :)
And the car needs shields, but I'm not sure a vehicule the size of a modern car would be able to generate the amount of power needed to run a cloak...

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:31 am
by Mike DiCenso
Given that we've seen in DS9 and ST:ENT, cloaking devices can generate their own power sufficently to cloak itself as seen in "The Emperor's New Cloak", and as demonstrated in "The Communicator", the Suliban cloaking technology emitted some particle that could hide a human hand for several hours without any power at all being generated to maintain the effect. So in theory, depending on which cloak tech you want to go with, you can douse your car in Suliban cloaking particles and stay hidden for a few hours (no control over that, except if you want to decloak by using power again), or you can maybe attenuate the amount of power from a large box-sized klingon cloaking device to cover the car with.
-Mike

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:19 pm
by Praeothmin
But, Mike, 2046 specifically mentioned Canon Starfleet technology.
Last I checked, Suliban technology wasn't part of Starfleet technology... :)

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:14 pm
by Mike DiCenso
Who says that it is not, since it was captured and kept for years on the NX-01, and even made use of at least once during that time. Given that Section 31 existed at the time and was an Earth organization to begin with, who can say that they did not eventually get ahold of it, and make use of it for themselves? :-)
-Mike

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:06 am
by Praeothmin
Mike DiCenso wrote:Who says that it is not, since it was captured and kept for years on the NX-01, and even made use of at least once during that time. Given that Section 31 existed at the time and was an Earth organization to begin with, who can say that they did not eventually get ahold of it, and make use of it for themselves? :-)
-Mike
Damn, I'm not far enough in the Enterprise series to have seen this...
We'll discuss this once I've seen season 3 and 4...
This discussion is not over... ;)

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:38 am
by 2046
Just thought of something else . . .

. . . I'd definitely want to have either an EMP-based or some other more selective system that would allow me to disable other vehicles, or specifically their excessively-loud radios blasting out crappy music.

(This is a modification of my old desire for an Oldies Blaster, which I envisioned as a large pop-out rotating directional speaker mount that would emerge from my vehicle's trunk or side doors (depending on what I was driving at the time) and retaliate against vehicular ghetto blasters with a glass-shattering volume of Roy Orbison's tones, or Frankie Valli if I needed to go all WMD on their asses.)

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:43 pm
by Mike DiCenso
2046 wrote:Just thought of something else . . .

. . . I'd definitely want to have either an EMP-based or some other more selective system that would allow me to disable other vehicles, or specifically their excessively-loud radios blasting out crappy music.
You'd want a directed EMP as it would be pretty damn unethical to say the least if you fired off an indiscrimatory EMP pulse that just winds up taking out both the guilty and the innocent alike with the chance of causing a mass car pile up as cars lose power and possibly control. You also don't want to knock out the power to local buildings, especailly hospitals and emergency facilties.
-Mike

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:01 am
by Cocytus
Haha, now I'm remembering that Viper show from NBC in the 90s. Talk about product placement.

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:19 pm
by 2046
Mike DiCenso wrote:
2046 wrote:Just thought of something else . . .

. . . I'd definitely want to have either an EMP-based or some other more selective system that would allow me to disable other vehicles, or specifically their excessively-loud radios blasting out crappy music.
You'd want a directed EMP as it would be pretty damn unethical to say the least if you fired off an indiscrimatory EMP pulse that just winds up taking out both the guilty and the innocent alike with the chance of causing a mass car pile up as cars lose power and possibly control. You also don't want to knock out the power to local buildings, especailly hospitals and emergency facilties.
-Mike
Naturally . . . I was simply pondering an "EMP-based or more selective system" in the sense of not necessarily wanting to EMP the opposing vehicle entirely . . . it would be nice to be able to fry/disable their sound system alone. It never occurred to me that anyone would presume I meant an undirected EMP.

Re: Design Your Own Stealth Future-Car

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:08 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
That title really did not help. You should have called it "Pimp my Ride Trek style" or something. :)
I'm sure I'll give it a go, but not knowing much about Trek, it will probably be limited to some cool holo stuff that changes the external aspect of the car, makes it fly, beams to shoot down people who piss me off and cloak so no one knows I'm a murderer. Oh, wait.