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Picard vs StarWarsStarTrek Commentary

Post by User1626 » Sun May 29, 2011 5:32 am

Picard wrote: If we take start speed as being 50 000 km/s (and speed in Wounded was yet larger) then it means ONE GIGATON OF ENERGY USED JUST TO FIRE ONE TORPEDO.
Let me butt in here for a second: that's assuming non-warped acceleration. Is there evidence for that, since the entire ship is warp-driven-- and so it should be a simple matter to warp-accelerate a torpedo?
That gives us acceleration of exactly 362 962 963 km/h^2, or 100 823 045.3 m/s^2.
Which is equal to 10,288,065.85 G's-- sub-light!
That gives us a glimpse into the sub-light acceleration capabilities of even Kirk-era starships: over 10 million G's!

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Post by Admiral Breetai » Mon May 30, 2011 12:52 am

I like how SWST leaves out the bombardment of ossus by a fleet of dozens of vessels during the time leading up Arca Jeths death and so on or how he leaves out that such ships despite being thousands of years old can and have still stood toe to toe with modern vessels..how numerous times in the thousands of years leading up to the GE we have seen bombardments of planets that do little more than piss off the locals

ah and of course your utter and complete failure to the extent that you run away from threads to avoid proving this: show us where in the films is such fire power supported.

until a "commentary" thread is posted I'll call out every lie you tell here

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Post by StarWarsStarTrek » Mon May 30, 2011 12:58 am

Breentai and others, please do not post in this thread. This is just between me and Picard.

Not to mention that you, once again, have no sources or quotes backing up your claims.

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Post by Admiral Breetai » Mon May 30, 2011 1:22 am

StarWarsStarTrek wrote:Breentai and others, please do not post in this thread. This is just between me and Picard.
as I said until a thread is made every time you spew out nonsense it will be met here

StarWarsStarTrek wrote: Not to mention that you, once again, have no sources or quotes backing up your claims.
you've just been busted multiple times for not backing up your shit as well as lying you have no grounds to claim anything. as for my sources The tales of the jedi series and various video games..and EU novels if you seriously don't know the ones I'm talking about than you know less about the Eu that you do trek

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Re: Picard vs StarWarsStarTrek Commentary

Post by Praeothmin » Mon May 30, 2011 2:21 pm

Thread split.

Now all commentaries are to be made in this thread here...

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Post by Admiral Breetai » Mon May 30, 2011 2:55 pm

Praeothmin wrote:Thread split.

Now all commentaries are to be made in this thread here...
reread his posts he lied and distorted at least twice hence my calling him out

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Re: Picard vs StarWarsStarTrek Commentary

Post by Praeothmin » Mon May 30, 2011 3:20 pm

Admiral Breetai wrote:
Praeothmin wrote:Thread split.

Now all commentaries are to be made in this thread here...
reread his posts he lied and distorted at least twice hence my calling him out
I only split the thread, I did not comment on anything he did/said... O_O?

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Post by Admiral Breetai » Mon May 30, 2011 3:55 pm

Praeothmin wrote:
I only split the thread, I did not comment on anything he did/said... O_O?
lol I know dude I'm just giving you a heads up our boy started the party earlier in that thread

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Re: Picard vs StarWarsStarTrek Commentary

Post by Praeothmin » Mon May 30, 2011 5:37 pm

BTW, Picard, in ST, the movies and series are both at the same level of canon, unless you have a quote that proves otherwise...

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Post by Picard » Mon May 30, 2011 6:19 pm

There is a statement by Rodenberry that he "did not consider movies much canon" from Wikipedia. Plus, movies are based off series, and not vice versa, so it would be logical that spinoff is less canon than basic work.

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Post by Mike DiCenso » Mon May 30, 2011 6:26 pm

I'd like to see that quote directly since it kind of runs against everything I know Gene Roddenberry had said before death in 1991. It has been reported that Roddenberry did not like parts of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, and Star Trek VI, the Undiscovered Country, and considered those parts not to be canon, though exactly what has been a matter of some dispute.
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Post by Picard » Mon May 30, 2011 6:34 pm

"Paula Block, VCP Senior Director of Licensed Publishing, TrekBBS posts, December 2005." is listed as source.

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Post by Admiral Breetai » Mon May 30, 2011 7:04 pm

Mike DiCenso wrote:I'd like to see that quote directly since it kind of runs against everything I know Gene Roddenberry had said before death in 1991. It has been reported that Roddenberry did not like parts of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, and Star Trek VI, the Undiscovered Country, and considered those parts not to be canon, though exactly what has been a matter of some dispute.
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Roddenbarry hated anything that grim darked his universe IIRC and tended to refuse to even consider such things hence why Braga and Berman wanted the dominion war to only be a few episodes..as opposed to the undiluted awesome we got

not that that justifies dismissal

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Post by Praeothmin » Mon May 30, 2011 7:47 pm

And contrary to GL, Roddenberry had zero choice in what is canon and what is not, since Paramount owns the rights to ST, and their policy is "Films and series only" canon...

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Re: Picard vs StarWarsStarTrek Commentary

Post by Picard » Mon May 30, 2011 7:54 pm

Ah, I get it. But I think there should be one series that take precedence over rest of canon (either TOS or TNG) as way of solving continuity issues.

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