Star Trek: range and accuracy of ship/station/base weapons

[Mr. Oragahn]

Right. People said it would be long, it would take time, to list all known attack ranges.

Just do it. List the film or the show, and therefore its number (season+episode number), title , and the data, with clear solid evidence and as little speculation as possible.
Take your time.

Hoping we won't hit a word limit, I'd rather have the OP edited anytime new references are found.

No cheating.



Shows

The Original Series

• Season 1
  • 1.05 "The Enemy Within"
    Type type type.
• Season 2
  • 2.06 "The Doomsday Machine"
    The machine uses a beam of som'thing and hits the Enterprise over x km, while the ship was roughly immobile.

The Next Generation

Deep Space Nine

Voyager

Enterprise



Feature films

Star Trek: The Motion Picture

• When orbiting the moon, the Murian ship fires a volley of 3-4 photon torpedoes and barely misses a ship within visual range.

Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan

Star Trek III: The Search for Spock

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home

Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

Star Trek Generations

Star Trek: First Contact

Star Trek: Insurrection

Star Trek Nemesis



It would be better for JMS to edit this post as far as there's little chance for him to make a mistake about the details.

[Mike DiCenso]

• 1.05 "The Enemy Within"
  Type type type.

There are no scenes of ship, station or base combat in this episode. Evil Kirk fires a Type-II phaser pistol on Good Kirk, but misses due to Spock's timely intervention with a Vulcan neck pinch.

[*] Season 2

• 2.06 "The Doomsday Machine"
  The machine uses a beam of som'thing and hits the Enterprise over x km, while the ship was roughly immobile.

The Enterprise and the Planet Killer, as well as the Constellation all exchange phaser fire. No use of photon torpedoes. No ranges are given when this happens, and the Enterprise is hit multiple times by the PK's anti-proton beam weapon as it closes (intentionally as per Commodore Decker's orders) with the device. The Enterprise is not immobile. The Enterprise in return fires many times on the PK within a few hundred meters to a few km. The Constellation fires once at the PK in an attempt to distract it's attention from the Enterprise. The Constellation does this while moving an an unknown velocity, and at a very distant, but unstated range.

Feature films

Star Trek: The Motion Picture

• When orbiting the moon, the Murian ship fires a volley of 3-4 photon torpedoes and barely misses a ship within visual range.

I have no idea what you are describing, but it has absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with any event in ST:TMP. The Klingon T'tinga class ship fires three torpedoes on the V'Ger cloud from a distance of approximately 1 AU (over 40 AUs in the original theatrical version). The accuracy is is unknown
as the torpedoes are utterly snuffed out by the V'ger powerfield. V'Ger returns fire at least 3 times, and hits all three of the Klingon battlecruisers. Again from AU or multiple AU distances. All vessels involved are estimated to be at warp 7.

Later, the Epsilon IX listening post station is destroyed by V'Ger, again the cloud is at warp and range can be considered as per above. However the station is relatively immobile, but the station is hit and taken out with at least one hit of the strange green plasma weapon bolts.


During the wormhole incident, the Enterprise fires apon and hits an asteroid of indeterminate range and size with a single photon torpedo.


The Enterprise herself is fired apon twice by V'Ger. Both ships are doing at least warp 7, the first hit occuring with frightening accuracy at ranges similar to that of the previous two encounters. The second plasma bolt nearly hits, but is destructed by V'Ger before it can. In the special edition version, the plasma bolt is destructed just about 100 meters off the Enterprise's bow. In some reditied versions, the Enterprise carries out some rather significant evasive maneuvers, but to no avail.

After the attack on the Enterprise, there is no further combat.
-Mike

[2046]

This is actually worth its own sub-forum, with a stickied master post and a master topic list.

For instance, if I were to right now want to inquire of Mike how we know for sure that some of the TMP incidents occurred at warp 7 (for example only), it seems as if we'd end up with a very messy thread. Especially considering that some people are going to fight every statement tooth and nail.

[Trinoya]

Seconded, perhaps some sort of reference thread for debate issues... if we absolutely must classify it that is of course.

[Mr. Oragahn]

Mike, these were examples, I have little to no idea what these episodes were about. It was to show how it would look like.

As for debating each element, maybe this will spawn threads, but the point is having as many references as possible without needing to debate them heavily and argue each point. However, pixel measurements and distance estimations are perfectly acceptable, that's the point.

I understand that it may scare some people, but instead of randomly dropping a ref here and there and never remembering where you put it in an ocean of posts, just let have it there.

It seems that DS9 comes back regularly, probably because it featured massive fleets, so there's stuff to find there.

[Mike DiCenso]

This is actually worth its own sub-forum, with a stickied master post and a master topic list.

For instance, if I were to right now want to inquire of Mike how we know for sure that some of the TMP incidents occurred at warp 7 (for example only), it seems as if we'd end up with a very messy thread. Especially considering that some people are going to fight every statement tooth and nail.

The Enterprise achives warp 7 according to dialog in order to intercept V'Ger, moving in the "conic" flight pattern that brings it around and behind the immense alien vessel. Now Enterprise could have altered her velocity some one way or another, but without any real statement, we must assume that warp 7 is what Enterprise and V'Ger are doing. Also because V'Ger remained at a constant speed in it's heading towards Earth, we can also assume that the Klingons were doing a similar speed, perhaps faster.


As a side note, the novelization, though non-canon, has the Enterprise briefly reach the emergency speed of warp 10 as part of it's attempts to evade the first plasma bolt.
-Mike

[Mike DiCenso]

Mike, these were examples, I have little to no idea what these episodes were about. It was to show how it would look like.

My biggest concern would be if someone who didn't know any better took a look at it, and thought that you were presenting accurate information on the episode, and I agree that this ought to be a sticky thread.
-Mike

[Jedi Master Spock]

TOS: The Alternative Factor
Phaser strike on stationary ~1.5m target from middle orbit (see picture here.

"A Piece of the Action" Orbital stun strike from regular orbit on a city block

Oh, I'll just quote the page:

In "Changeling," the order to fire is given along with a range of 90,000 kilometers, resulting in a direct hit on a target smaller than a typical human. In "Obsession," we learn that even while moving at high warp, phasers cannot fire 0.04 light years. In "The Tholian Web," the Tholian vessel stands off at a range of 90,000 km, producing immediate threat to the Enterprise. In "Spectre of the Gun:" phaser crews are ordered ready before a slowly approaching vessel reaches 45,000 km. In "Spock's Brain," phaser crews are standing by before the range to an unknown approaching vessel closes to 43,000 km. In "Journey to Babel," phasers are fired just after closing to 75,000 kilometers. In "The Deadly Years," Romulan vessels are stated to be at 50-100,000 km from the Enterprise while attacking it.


If nothing else, that should point you places to look.