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Funny it has just begun and has already killed over 149 people which is far more than what Spanish influenza did when it was beginning to spread before it became a Pandemic. Alcohol was not outlawed all over the world in fact prohibition in the US only lasted for about a decade or so and all we got from that is headaches like Capone. I doubt it'll cure you, it sure did not cure people with Spanish influenza or everybody would have been saved by just getting drunk and that did not happen.Mike DiCenso wrote:Unlikely, the pathology of the so-called Spanish Influenza, unlike other forms of the flu, killed otherwise healthy individuals by causing a unique form of immune system over-reaction called "cytokine storms". Could this new swine flu spread far? Sure. But at this time, the disease has not exibited the high mortality rate that the 1918-1920 outbreak has.
-Mike
actually I've heard that this flue is doing the same thing.Mike DiCenso wrote:Unlikely, the pathology of the so-called Spanish Influenza, unlike other forms of the flu, killed otherwise healthy individuals by causing a unique form of immune system over-reaction called "cytokine storms". Could this new swine flu spread far? Sure. But at this time, the disease has not exibited the high mortality rate that the 1918-1920 outbreak has.
-Mike
We are not even in a Pandemic situation yet but the mortality rate from just a few days of being discovered does surpass the 1918 pandemic in it's initial stages.Mike DiCenso wrote:The infection rates and the intensity of the cytokine storms do not appear to be anywhere near on the same level as the 1918 pandemic. At least not so far, and neither are the reported death tolls.
-Mike
http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/hea ... enza-.htmlMike DiCenso wrote:Based on what data? The "early stages" of Spanish Flu were not well characterized, and may even have started out even earlier than previously thought (Spring of 1917 in Austria).
-Mike
Well they named the 1918 avian Flu as Spanish influenza did they not?2046 wrote:I do find it odd that we aren't calling it Mexican Flu or Mexico City Flu or even Veracruz Flu.
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Edit: Now it's clear why. I found this very good NY Times article, but then also this, and in that last one is where the nomenclature politics got seriously inserted.
Apparently:
1. If you're thinking history points to the idea of calling it "Mexican flu", and
2. You are from the US with its funny-name-using media, and
3. You are not from Thailand that calls it "Mexican flu" now,
... then you're a right-wing extremist. My bad.
Mexican flu it is, SFGate-skank.
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The bit about the Alcool was just a joke... :)Punkmaister wrote:Alcohol was not outlawed all over the world in fact prohibition in the US only lasted for about a decade or so and all we got from that is headaches like Capone. I doubt it'll cure you, it sure did not cure people with Spanish influenza or everybody would have been saved by just getting drunk and that did not happen.
personally I think Veracruz flu has a better ring to it.2046 wrote:I do find it odd that we aren't calling it Mexican Flu or Mexico City Flu or even Veracruz Flu.
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Edit: Now it's clear why. I found this very good NY Times article, but then also this, and in that last one is where the nomenclature politics got seriously inserted.
Apparently:
1. If you're thinking history points to the idea of calling it "Mexican flu", and
2. You are from the US with its funny-name-using media, and
3. You are not from Thailand that calls it "Mexican flu" now,
... then you're a right-wing extremist. My bad.
Mexican flu it is, SFGate-skank.
)))))))
Are you suggesting that this strain could be man made Mr O? That's even scarier...Mr. Oragahn wrote:Correct, verified and official death rate in Mexico has been reduced from 20 to 7.
We're far from the hundred and plus.
This flu has potential for being pandemic though, due to its original mixing of strains. It's almost too perfect to be true! :D
Well, yes, a form of it can. CDC labs have been manufacturing such a mix, in 04, precisely to be prepared if they needed to deliver vaccines at a large scale, if such a flu were to occur naturally... which is really remarkable, to have a flu managing to mix all three different viral DNAs, and get transmitted.PunkMaister wrote:Are you suggesting that this strain could be man made Mr O? That's even scarier...Mr. Oragahn wrote:Correct, verified and official death rate in Mexico has been reduced from 20 to 7.
We're far from the hundred and plus.
This flu has potential for being pandemic though, due to its original mixing of strains. It's almost too perfect to be true! :D
By this document, we can notice FOUR things.Mexico City, Mexico, March 9, 2009 - Sanofi-aventis (EURONEXT: SAN and NYSE: SNY), announced today the signing of an agreement with the Mexican authorities to build a € 100 million facility to manufacture influenza vaccine in Mexico.
The announcement was made during a ceremony attended by Felipe Calderon, President of Mexico, and Nicolas Sarkozy, President of France, who was in Mexico City for a State visit.
This facility will be built and operated by sanofi pasteur, the vaccines division of sanofi-aventis Group, which was represented at the ceremony by Chris Viehbacher, Chief Executive Officer of sanofi-aventis.
“By building this new facility, sanofi-aventis is proud to contribute to the strengthening of Mexico’s health infrastructure and is eager to support Mexico’s exemplary commitment to public health through influenza immunization and pandemic readinessâ€, said Chris Viehbacher. “This investment illustrates sanofi-aventis’ local approach to global health. This facility will benefit public health in Mexico and the Latin American region, in the context of influenza pandemic preparednessâ€.
The agreement was signed by Birmex’ (Laboratorio de Biológicos y Reactivos de México) and sanofi-aventis’ representatives in the presence of Dr. José Ãngel Córdova Villalobos, Minister of Health of Mexico.
Under the terms of the agreement, sanofi pasteur will manufacture influenza vaccine in collaboration with Birmex, a Mexican federal vaccine manufacturer. Birmex will perform certain stages of manufacturing and will be responsible for distributing influenza vaccines to the public in Mexico.
Sanofi pasteur is planning to start construction of the new vaccine manufacturing facility within a few weeks. Upon completion within four years, the facility will have a yearly capacity of up to 25 million doses of seasonal influenza vaccine.
The new influenza vaccine plant will be built in Ocoyoacac, where sanofi-aventis already operates a facility. The plant will be designed to switch to pandemic vaccine manufacturing if a human influenza pandemic is declared and a pandemic influenza strain is identified by the World Health Organization (WHO).
As the world leader in research, development and manufacturing of influenza vaccines, sanofi pasteur is working to develop new and improved influenza vaccines to save lives and is actively involved in pandemic preparedness. Over the last five years, sanofi pasteur has been consistently investing in major expansions of its influenza vaccine production capacity in the United States, France, China, and now Mexico. With the production of more than 170 million doses of seasonal influenza vaccine in 2008, sanofi pasteur confirmed its global influenza vaccine market leadership.
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Seasonal influenza overview
Influenza is a disease caused by a highly infectious virus that spreads easily from person to person, primarily when an infected individual coughs or sneezes. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the average global burden of inter-pandemic influenza may be on the order of 1 billion cases per year, leading to 300,000-500,000 deaths worldwide. In temperate climate zones, seasonal epidemics typically begin in the late Fall and peak in mid-winter, infecting about 5-15% of the population each season, while In tropical zones the virus can be isolated year-round. The disease can affect all age groups, but rates of infections are highest among young children who spread the virus and are a potential source of infection in older age cohorts, whereas rates of serious illness, complications and death are highest in persons aged 65 years and older, as well as in persons with chronic cardiac or respiratory conditions. The efficacy of vaccination in reducing the burden of the disease, as well as the economic burden of treating influenza, is well established.
Pandemic Influenza Overview
Influenza is a disease caused by a highly infectious virus that spreads easily from person to person, primarily when an infected individual coughs or sneezes. An influenza pandemic is a global epidemic of an especially virulent virus, newly infectious for humans, and for which there is no preexisting immunity. This is why pandemic strains have such potential to cause severe morbidity and mortality. In an attempt to minimize the impact of a pandemic, many countries are developing national and transnational plans against a possible influenza pandemic situation. For more information on sanofi pasteur and pandemic preparedness, please visit http://pandemic.influenza.com
About sanofi-aventis
Sanofi-aventis, a leading global pharmaceutical company, discovers, develops and distributes therapeutic solutions to improve the lives of everyone. Sanofi-aventis is listed in Paris (EURONEXT: SAN) and in New York (NYSE: SNY).
Sanofi pasteur, the vaccines division of sanofi-aventis Group, provided more than 1.6 billion doses of vaccine in 2008, making it possible to immunize more than 500 million people across the globe. A world leader in the vaccine industry, sanofi pasteur offers the broadest range of vaccines protecting against 20 infectious diseases. The company's heritage, to create vaccines that protect life, dates back more than a century. Sanofi Pasteur is the largest company entirely dedicated to vaccines. Every day, the company invests more than €1 million in research and development. For more information, please visit: or www.sanofipasteur.comwww.sanofipasteur.us
References:
1. http://www.who.int/vaccine_research/dis ... print.html
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