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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:14 pm

I heard Praeothmin quit his mod job. Is that true?

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Praeothmin » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:36 pm

Yes...

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by sonofccn » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:19 pm

Praeothmin wrote:Yes...
Dang sorry to hear that. But I can understand why.

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:42 pm

I have locked Mojo's "fanfic" thead as it is clear trolling as well as a direct insult to me under the guise of a story. Furthermore, Mojo, who has been warned nicely mulitple times, is receiving two warnings for the following infractions:

- For stalking and harassment of staff (Myself) in the form of an abusive "fanfic"

- For a highly abusive mass spam PM intended to harass a staff member (myself) with complaints from at least two of the recipients of that PM, Nowhereman and SpanishInquisitor about the PM as detailed in the "General Warning Tally for staff..." here.

As it seems that Jedi Master Spock lacks the time to deal with this, I am taking steps on my own. If JMS at some point wishes to override me, fine. But until then, I will take whatever punitive action is necessary against Mojo, or any of his sock puppets.
-Mike

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:47 pm

The current tally stands at

Mojo = 3 warnings

StarWarsStarTrek= 2 warnings

Admiral Breetai = 1 warning


Any further questions or any challenge to this accounting, should be directed to myself or to Jedi Master Spock, if you feel this is unfair in any way.

Thank you
-Mike

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:23 pm

Mr. Oragahn gets a warning for calling SWST an idiot in the "1.5 Megaton Myth" thread:
All you ask for, idiot, has already been explained in the BDZ thread. I have no intent to repeat myself over a cold case.
I realize that debating is tough with SWST, but try to keep it cool.

Also, regarding your report, when did SWST call you an idiot? I can't find anything other than multiple quotings of you having called SWST an idiot.
-Mike

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Admiral Breetai » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:21 pm

Mike DiCenso wrote:
- For stalking and harassment of staff (Myself) in the form of an abusive "fanfic"
this is hilarious I mean damn mike really? the guys venting his frustration would you rather he be trolling and flaming every thread SWST posts on?

it's constructive because it's harmless unless you are actually offended by Mojo's little harmless story

Mike DiCenso wrote:As it seems that Jedi Master Spock lacks the time to deal with this, I am taking steps on my own. If JMS at some point wishes to override me, fine. But until then, I will take whatever punitive action is necessary against Mojo, or any of his sock puppets.
-Mike
you are going about it the wrong way of course

Praeothmin wrote:Yes...
what a shame,,

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:31 am

Mike DiCenso wrote:Mr. Oragahn gets a warning for calling SWST an idiot in the "1.5 Megaton Myth" thread:
All you ask for, idiot, has already been explained in the BDZ thread. I have no intent to repeat myself over a cold case.
I realize that debating is tough with SWST, but try to keep it cool.

Also, regarding your report, when did SWST call you an idiot? I can't find anything other than multiple quotings of you having called SWST an idiot.
-Mike
Eh? In my report, I never pointed out that SWST called me an idiot. I pointed out that he kept ignoring points about Dankayo and further elements of BDZ-related debates, and that I always invited him to reply to my points made in the BDZ thread and he always refused, even having the gall to try to reboot the whole BDZ topic with a new BDZ thread.
I don't know how my report indicated any complaint about "idiot". You must have mixed two reports, one possibly coming from SWST himself, and mine.

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:32 am

Admiral Breetai wrote:
Mike DiCenso wrote:
- For stalking and harassment of staff (Myself) in the form of an abusive "fanfic"
this is hilarious I mean damn mike really? the guys venting his frustration would you rather he be trolling and flaming every thread SWST posts on?

it's constructive because it's harmless unless you are actually offended by Mojo's little harmless story
You know, harmless doesn't equal constructive in my book.
And I didn't like the mega-PM thing either.

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:40 am

Oh besides, the 1 day 2 days 4 days 1 week 2 weeks 1 month 2 months gradual ban duration is silly.
One can only be that tolerable with very troublesome people.

I say you drop a good many of those steps. By the time of the fourth ban, I think it should be pretty clear that the member is simply not worth keeping around. So the fourth ban should be a permanent ban.
You need to be manly about that. Tolerance is fine and all in intelligent and measured quantities. At some point, there's only brute force that works. Or absolute authority, in this case.
Eventually you may allow more warning prior to a ban if you wish to, but not too many either.
Also, some warnings should disappear after a while. SBC has infractions points which are tied to a dating system. Isn't there something similar here?

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:22 am

After much consideration and careful monitoring of the situation, I am giving StarWarsStarTrek a warning for the following violations as detailed here:

Mike DiCenso wrote:On SWST not addressing evidence concerning the lack of evidence of asteroids in the Falcon-Avenger chase scenes:

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 026#p38026

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 058#p38058

Attempting to trump higher canon with lower canon concerning planetary bombardment:

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 013#p38013

Not to mention trying to use the CCG card image that was debunked as proof of gigatons of firepower long ago, and my links back to the essays by Jedi Master Spock, Nowhereman10, and I, among several others:

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 949#p37949

This is a short list in a long list of similar behavior that dates back to SWST's first appearance here:

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 941#p26941

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 863#p26863

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... f=8&t=1919

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 9&start=30

I see a continuing pattern of behavior.
-Mike
I am also issuing a second warning for dishonesty in the form of ignoring various other users' evidence or attempting to subvert clearly higher canon material with lower canon.

This brings StarWarsStarTrek's tally back up to four warnings, which means he is given a punitive 4 week (1 month) ban. As always, please appeal to Jedi Master Spock, if you think this punishment given in error.
-Mike

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:00 am

For some strange reason the 2 warnings JMS placed on SWST earlier in place of the four warnings Praeo gave him were not listed in the warning box. So for the sake of clarity I will add them back in so that it does not look like I am unfairly banning SWST for having just two warnings.
-Mike
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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:27 pm

Mike DiCenso wrote:For some strange reason the 2 warnings JMS placed on SWST earlier in place of the four warnings Praeo gave him were not listed in the warning box. So for the sake of clarity I will add them back in so that it does not look like I am unfairly banning SWST for having just two bans.
-Mike
Convenient glitch. Temp ban or permaban ?

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Mike DiCenso » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:11 pm

For now a long temp ban of 4 weeks. But the request to go through with changing it to a permaban is still pending.
-Mike

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Re: General Warning Tally for users...

Post by Picard » Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:57 pm

Praeothmin wrote:Yes...
Your call... I just hope you did not make wrong decision.

Good luck with "retirement".

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