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Battle of Naboo, part II: Incoming Wraith Hiveships

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:18 am
by Mr. Oragahn
We're at the end of TPM.

Everything happened like in the film.

Anakin blows up the droid control ship, escapes and everybody returns to Naboo.

The droids are disabled, and the Neomoidians defeated.

A week later...

All Naboo and Gungans have been freed.
Palpatine, Obi-Wan and Anakin are gone. The festivities have ended.

The Naboo are moving the masses of droids in temporary junkyards, and reorganizing their forces.

All remaining troop transport deplyment spaceships, AAT tanks, STAPs and other infantry vehicles that belonged to the Trade Federation are moved into large fields, plazas and other warehouses.
All battledroids (20,000 units) and remaining vultures (100 units) have been vaguely stored and disconnected. They can't be controlled through any network.

While everything seems to go fine, for a planet that has been through an invasion and occupation, some sort of weird anomaly forms around the star system.
All communications are lost with the rest of the Republic.
No ship can leave the system.

No one understands what happens.

Then an unidentified small ship appears not far from Naboo. It's damaged. It appears to be of primitive design. Its pilot comes in too fast, and crashes not far from Theed.

He's rescued and brough to a medical facility. While critically wounded, he manages to pull a device out of his pocket. This super magic device can translate universal english into basic.

The message is simple:

"The Wraith are coming. They have two massive spaceships, carrying legions of soldiers and thousands of fighters, which they'll use to attack your world. Then, they'll feed upon you, your families and friends. You may die, but you still can choose how. Either fighting, or eaten.

You only have one six months before they come..."

Padmé, the Naboo council and Panaka realize that they have to prepare for the invasion.
They have one month to train as many men as possible, and recycle all the weapons and crafts left by the Neimoidians.

Padmé immediately rises a military funding project, considerably increasing the amount of ressources provided to Theed Palace Space Vessel Engineering Corps.
N-1 fighters are being produced in larger quantities.
She also redirects funds towards military training, as fast as possible.

Six months later, as the hiveships are about to arrive, the Naboo have gathered the following military ressources:
  • 150,000 troopers, equipped with Naboo rifles or Trade Federation rifles. Same gear as seen in TPM. They have been quickly trained to use AAT tanks.
  • 100 AAT tanks.
  • 40 MTTs. Droid racks have been removed for transport of organic troops.
  • 20 TFTCs, with droid racks removed as well.
  • 200 former STAPs. As humans can't pilot them, they've been grounded, and only serve as defense turrets now.
  • 2,000 N-1 starfighters, with an equal amount of pilots and astromechs.
  • 60 NB-1S Royal Bombers. Totally functional, they have the same characteristics as N-1, safe that their proton torpedoes are 10 times more powerful than those on the N-1s, and their energy cannons, still two, are twice as powerful. Their shielding is 5 times better as well, but their acceleration is not different.
  • 2 C-9979s, totally empty.
  • 10 turbolaser turrets per main city, placed on each city's outskirts. They have the same abilities as those on the Death Star.
The Gungan grand army is ready to fight on the ground. They'll remain hidden as long as necessary, as long as the Wraith don't land.





The two hiveships arrive in the system, rougly 3 millions of klicks away from Naboo.

Each hiveship comes with the following ressources:
  • 1 queen.
  • 100,000 drone sodiers. 100 Wraith commanders (the guys with the leather black trenchoats).
  • 3,000 Darts.
All Wraith soldiers and ships are fully equipped, with anything seen in the series, and do use a bit of Smartâ„¢.

The Wraith don't plan to bombard the cities from orbit.

Both ships send a first wave of 500 darts each, to gauge the enemy's defenses.

Then they'll launch the rest of their darts in one sweep, minus a hundred, while positionning themselves in orbit of the planet, on opposite sides.

If the darts are destroyed, the hiveships will land far from any city, and deploy their soldiers, using the remaining Darts for rapid troop deployment and further culling, if possible.
Ok, that's not smart, but I decide the rules.
The hiveships will also use their cannons to shoot at anything that approaches the ships. That is smart.
These cannons can be dialed up or down at will, from Condemned/Sateda level of shooting, to the highest levels they have at their disposal.

Will the Naboo and Gungans survive, or them and their art be devoured, painfully?

By the way, no Jar Jar plot device. Have him die horribly by Wraith hands at the very beginning if you want, or hit by a random debris, or suffocate under Boss Nass's fat ass, I don't care. But he DIES, and serves no purpose.

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:43 am
by l33telboi
Well, the first thing to figure out is how that initial wave of Darts is going to stand up against the defenders.

They seem to be roughly on par with the N-1s when it comes to speed and maneuverability. The weapons on the N-1 fire at a more rapid pace though, however, it would seem they aren't all that strong (considering their effects when Anakin fired inside the hangar). In any case, they should be enough to take down Darts, and Darts should be able to take down N-1s.

I guess the biggest advantages for the Wraith here are that they are the attackers, and so they get to choose where to strike. If they indeed use Smart, this could prove quite detrimental to the defenders. At this stage the defenders are quite numerous when compared to the 1,000 Darts, so they should manage a kill-ration higher then 1:1.

I guess the Wraith will get their fair share of kills, but eventually they'll be destroyed by the superior defending numbers and defensive positions.

The Wraith could also use these initial Darts to place infiltrators and saboteurs within key cities. Or perhaps use that funky telepathic power they sometimes use (the Shadows thingy) to spread fear and such. Soften up the defenses, as it were.

Afterwards, things get tricky. You said there were to be no orbital bombardment, but what about precision strikes? If there's a large group of tanks or something situated in close proximity to each other, would the Hiveships be able to take out the entire place? What about the TL emplacements?

Also, will the defenders try to attack the Wraith Hiveships directly? I don't think the smaller ships can do anything significant against the Hiveships, mass proton-torp bombardment might be able to punch holes in the hull here or there, but given the size of the Hiveships, I doubt that would be problematic.

The larger landing craft are stated to have weapons, so I guess those could be problematic, but then again, I have no way of knowing how powerful their weapons are.

The follow-up full-on Dart attack could be hard to repel. 5,000 against whatever remains of the initial N-1 numbers will be hard to tackle and most of the defenses will have to be dealt with by ground emplacements. This will be even worse if the defenders do indeed attack the Wraith Hiveships directly, as they've probably lost almost all airborne assets by now.

I dunno, I think it a good chance the Wraith at this point achieve total air dominance, which would be very bad for the defenders indeed and quickly lead to defeat.

In any case, if they land their Hiveships, then ground combat is going to be a pain for the Wraith. I'm not even sure how they're going to deal with tanks and such, their stunners are meant to be used against fleshy foes. I suppose any ground combat units would have to be heavily supported by Darts. The Hiveship weapons could take out pretty much anything they can target, but on the ground, they can't really target a whole lot, except stuff attacking the ships directly.

To me, it seems as if the Wraith hold the biggest chance of winning this scenario. Especially if they fight smart.

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:15 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
l33telboi wrote:Well, the first thing to figure out is how that initial wave of Darts is going to stand up against the defenders.

They seem to be roughly on par with the N-1s when it comes to speed and maneuverability. The weapons on the N-1 fire at a more rapid pace though, however, it would seem they aren't all that strong (considering their effects when Anakin fired inside the hangar). In any case, they should be enough to take down Darts, and Darts should be able to take down N-1s.
Agreed. Dart weapons can cause nice explosions on the ground.
I guess the biggest advantages for the Wraith here are that they are the attackers, and so they get to choose where to strike. If they indeed use Smart, this could prove quite detrimental to the defenders. At this stage the defenders are quite numerous when compared to the 1,000 Darts, so they should manage a kill-ration higher then 1:1.
If they're smarter, they may even try to remain close to the surface, to get help from the cannons placed in the urban centres, and from the tanks.
They'd have to force the darts into dogfights into the low atmosphere.

That said, the Wraith drones are kamikaze. They could eventually fly into enemy ships if necessary, or ram heavy ground defenses.
I guess the Wraith will get their fair share of kills, but eventually they'll be destroyed by the superior defending numbers and defensive positions.

The Wraith could also use these initial Darts to place infiltrators and saboteurs within key cities. Or perhaps use that funky telepathic power they sometimes use (the Shadows thingy) to spread fear and such. Soften up the defenses, as it were.
On the ground, this will be a good diversion.
Afterwards, things get tricky. You said there were to be no orbital bombardment, but what about precision strikes? If there's a large group of tanks or something situated in close proximity to each other, would the Hiveships be able to take out the entire place? What about the TL emplacements?
No. The hiveships are limited to troop carriers, and can shoot down anything that comes close to them when they're landed.
All other attacks are coordinated by the use of Dart wings.
Also, will the defenders try to attack the Wraith Hiveships directly? I don't think the smaller ships can do anything significant against the Hiveships, mass proton-torp bombardment might be able to punch holes in the hull here or there, but given the size of the Hiveships, I doubt that would be problematic.
Would probably tickle them.
Hiveships can take nukes, so these TPM proton torps won't do anything.
The larger landing craft are stated to have weapons, so I guess those could be problematic, but then again, I have no way of knowing how powerful their weapons are.
By looking at their size, a tube seems to be longer than an AAT tank. The barrel might be twice as wide, and I would expect a firepower in the medium cargo league.

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These ships will be extremely useful to carry troops and assets around, or eventually hide somewhere in the Naboo system for a few months.
The follow-up full-on Dart attack could be hard to repel. 5,000 against whatever remains of the initial N-1 numbers will be hard to tackle and most of the defenses will have to be dealt with by ground emplacements. This will be even worse if the defenders do indeed attack the Wraith Hiveships directly, as they've probably lost almost all airborne assets by now.

I dunno, I think it a good chance the Wraith at this point achieve total air dominance, which would be very bad for the defenders indeed and quickly lead to defeat.
They'd have to go underground, stay inside buildings, and pay a visit or two to their Gungan friends. The Gungans had the ability to move their big assets out of their cities, so the Naboo forces can be moved inside. It might be a bit cramped, but that's a possibility. The Wraith will have to find a way into the cities.

I wonder if the darts can go underwater. They're likely able to do so, but who knows?
In any case, if they land their Hiveships, then ground combat is going to be a pain for the Wraith. I'm not even sure how they're going to deal with tanks and such, their stunners are meant to be used against fleshy foes.
I actually remember that stunners can carry some punch. Some were used against puddle jumpers in season 1, I recall.
Plus the drones have punchy grenades.
They can also use some drones. They're not armed, but good for recon.

Otherwise, it will be a sort of Siege. The Wraith will control the surface and will have to deal with a pest that, from times to times, comes out of the water to direct commando attacks.

In that context, the hiveships will lie there, and the Wraith will occasionally scout the planet for traces of survivors, to cull them.
At this point, Naboo will be defeated.
I suppose any ground combat units would have to be heavily supported by Darts. The Hiveship weapons could take out pretty much anything they can target, but on the ground, they can't really target a whole lot, except stuff attacking the ships directly.

To me, it seems as if the Wraith hold the biggest chance of winning this scenario. Especially if they fight smart.
If the Naboo wait for decades, they might be able to actually do what Sheppard did in Rising, and plant explosives. I guess that's the only way the Gungan and Naboo could reverse the tide without having to deal with huge numbers of active soldiers and Darts. However, they'll have only once chance.






Well, a pity that no one else seems able to give some insight for either side. :(