Jedi Master Spock wrote:Mike DiCenso wrote:At least Kane Starkiller tries with the rebuttals, but he's still way too dependent on the SDN groupthink for support to make his case.
-Mike
I wouldn't say so. He makes some good points, and some original points as well. I appreciate his visits to SFJ.
There's a very big difference between debating with Kane and debating with Darth Servo or Vympel (who can be relied upon to give the precise SDN "party line" if it exists, nineteen times out of twenty, and are thus far more predictable in their responses) or Point45 (who seems not to fully understand the arguments he has mostly cribbed from SDN, and therefore tends to give a somewhat incoherent account of common SDN positions).
Point45, who I have only crossed swords with at SBC thus far, primarily picks data from the ICS, some references straight from Wong's oldest pages, and then ignores everything else.
This core is coated with an alloy of bizarre phrasing, denial, walling and rich percentage of lies. His favorite technique being how any attempt at proving ICS claims wrong have miserably failed, and repeating this like a broken record as many times as necessary, while conveniently avoiding to go pick a look at the rebuttals in question, in case he would have something sensible to add to the critics. He's all full of hot air, but manages to drag you into post marathons.
The most noticeable aspect of Point45's tireless methods is that despite considerable reports, no mods would intervene, even to warn him.
I know of a very long thread, detailed and all that, wherein he's been making abysmally stupid claims, and above all ignoring elements provided by his opponents. After a long while, I remember people really getting fed up, and PMing mods. Nothing happened.
As you can see with recent threads where SW is involved, mods are rather quick to intervene against people who do not stick close enough to the pro-wars party line, and that's often explained by "I received some PMs".