Star Wars and Star Trek acceleration (no EU, please)

[2046]

While I do approve of taking the time to really consider your post, four months is (a) rather excessive and (b) should've resulted in a superior product.

we as an audience are seen the ISD's after they have already arrived, but they obviously moved out of the planet in order to do this.

That in no way contradicts my post.

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 037#p38037

3. The quote is further supported by an earlier scene in the movie, when Palpatine orders Vader to move the imperial fleet to the "far side of Endor".

That also is non-contradictory, especially if good timing were used (as referenced in my third paragraph).

Or, as I've told you before, "You would almost think the Imperials knew the Rebels were coming. Like Lando said, how else could they be jamm . . . oh. Huh. Funny, that."

So they traveled around 25000 kilometers in under a minute

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For example; we can look at the Geonosis incident. Dooku passes Geonosis's rings in the time that it takes for Yoda to pick up his cane, and for a concerned Padme to rush in and aid her boyfriend and Obi Wan. Even if it took her 20 seconds to do this; which is quite ridiculous, Dooku's sailship accelerated by as much as 5,000 Gs. Doing the math, it scales to ICS yields.

This is a wildly far outlier, and the only one of its kind so far as I know. In other words, this is like basing your warp velocities on Star Trek V and trying to push everything else to fit that.

Worse, we've discussed this before, and how it makes no sense that the sailship would be moving at such a leisurely pace past the Trade Federation coreship if it had magically gone screaming out of the atmosphere in the manner you describe. Hell, for that matter, if the ship had acceleration of the type you want to pretend, it could've simply sucked the air out of that cave (or even collapsed the whole thing) as it leapt out like a thunderbolt. Instead, it makes a leisurely departure and leaves ample time for multiple blaster shots to be fired at it. We don't even hear a sonic boom.

It is, in reality, an editing error . . . but if we stay in-universe, a mini-jump from altitude is the only plausible solution.

After all, we've seen the fastest ship at full "afterburn" (http://st-v-sw.net/STSWfalcaccel.html), and we've seen the admittedly-damaged Jedi cruiser Defender put everything into its engines for a painfully-slow ramming maneuver. We've also seen myriad other consistent examples. Put simply, there is no evidence to support your Geonosis claim as some sort of standard, and given the known quantity of short hyperjumps plus the extreme logical problems inherent in your Geonosis claim, we have a perfectly plausible explanation for the Geonosis outlier that doesn't require the hoop-jumping you so desperately demand.

[Mr. Oragahn]

So they traveled around 25000 kilometers in under a minute

You have failed to support this figure. Please try again.

He has been finally permabanned, so it won't be possible anymore.
For this incident, I find it good to point out the fact this whole super speed claim is partially based on a sequence of events which is plagued by another issue, that of the move and rotation of Endor. If the imperial ships moved under a minute to get from the other side of the moon to the battle field, then it means they started doing so as the rebel fleet arrived, and the "one minute" is more or less the time elapsed on screen.
When the rebel fleet arrives, if the gray object we see in front of the moon is the Death Star (piece of evidence used to justify the 900 km size), then it's necessary to point out that at that time, the imperial base is located on the night side of the moon and is probably a couple hours away from sunrise. Yet, when the rebel fleet comes close to the battle station, the station is now clearly located in a geosynchronous position above an area of the moon that's near dawn or already at dawn.

[2046]

Well crap. Now I feel bad for replying. I hate that sort of thing. But I am declaring it to be his fault for waiting four months.

[Mike DiCenso]

That's what you get for missing the staff meeting. :-D
-Mike