LMAO@SpaceBattles!

[Kor_Dahar_Master]

Moderators (at least as far as SFJN goes) do not have the ability to look up IP information, only the administrator (that is Jedi Master Spock) does. So I couldn't really tell you, nor is it really important to do so as neither of them have seriously bent, much less broken a rule here.
-Mike

Yea im on good terms with em both bud, i was more refering to confirming your comment about SB.com using the zinc excuse.

[Mike DiCenso]

Yes, I understand. What I'm saying is that I can't as a mod verify that they are seperate people unless they do something. In which case I can only ask JMS if they have seperate or the same IP addresses.

Now the SBC mods should be able to do something similar since they do have apparent reason to claim Zinc or whoever they want to claim is a Zinc sockpuppet is breaking their rules, so they could ask an admin to look it up. But apparently so far, all I've seen from them is baseless claims.
-Mike

[User1596]

Yes, I understand. What I'm saying is that I can't as a mod verify that they are seperate people unless they do something. In which case I can only ask JMS if they have seperate or the same IP addresses.

Now the SBC mods should be able to do something similar since they do have apparent reason to claim Zinc or whoever they want to claim is a Zinc sockpuppet is breaking their rules, so they could ask an admin to look it up. But apparently so far, all I've seen from them is baseless claims.
-Mike

Would it help if I gave you permission to look up my IP address?

And really they didn't even accuse me of being a sockpuppet to a specific member all I get was that I was one.

[Admiral Breetai]

Why not, someone has to do something otherwise they will continue to act that way thinking they can get away with it.

you wont change anything just waste some textspace..and validate the idiocy of those clowns

as to Zinc I've got no issues with the guy beyond the time allegedly any ways one of his sock puppets made some really pants on head stupid..and really anti comic claims..

[User1596]

I gotta say though the most amusing charge has to be causing discord. So because people are unwilling not to flame and watch there language they ban the guy getting flamed.

It is really obvious they don't want any kind of equal debate there.

[Mike DiCenso]

Would it help if I gave you permission to look up my IP address? And really they didn't even accuse me of being a sockpuppet to a specific member all I get was that I was one.

Well, if they didn't name a specific member, then it kinda makes it hard to determine whose sockpuppet you are, or anything else. If you want to lay to rest (here on SFJN) that you're not Zinc or whatever, you can directly contact JMS himself, and he'll probably do it. I certainly can't.
-Mike

[Mr. Oragahn]

I wouldn't

it is entirely beneath ones dignity to sock puppet in the face of mod Biased...I've never done it even when the place was dear to me..and I would caution against it it's just not worth it

Why not, someone has to do something otherwise they will continue to act that way thinking they can get away with it.

Yes, and now you've declared your intentions on an open forum. Despite what the loyal opposition says, they do lurk on this forum. So now they may be watching out for you, and they may impose a full IP ban as well.
-Mike

Amusingly enough, at some point I even suggested to Kor that some sockpuppetry would be in order if he wanted to continue posting at SBC.
Technically, I couldn't commend socking on a decent board, but when you're dealing with such a bunch of [beep], there's no point following some netiquette they don't give two shits about.
Someone really motivated wouldn't even be bothered by a full IP sniff.

Apparently forcing a s-mod to punish people who are flaming me gets me this

You have been banned for the following reason:
Long standing issues with debate\behavior, sockpuppet of another user and you contribute nothing to the board but dischord

Date the ban will be lifted: Never

Apparently because they couldn't think of a reason within the rules to ban me they just decided I was a sockpuppet. And apparently I can't even protest the ban to the admins because whichever s-mod banned me blocked my account.

Now to decide should I let this stand or make an actual sockpuppet and continue on as normal.

Thanatos is the worst supermod on the board he has banned people like this a few times in the past, he gives a few people (NOT leo1, rama, white_rabbit ect ect obviously as they constantly get free passes and have done for YEARS) temp bans but also perma bans guys like you, that way his actions seem fair to a outside observer (not the mod observer).

SB.com is essentially a victim of its own mod bias, they allow individuals like those i mentioned above free reign accross the board to throw out abuse and ignore other rules like the burden of proof and even support them. As such others deliberatly behave that way and turn the board into a war ground.

Facehugger constantly aids leo1 to ignore or dismiss proof provided by others while supporting leo1's justifications on a subject that have nothing to support them but personal opinion.

SS4 tried to do the same by supporting General Schatten in the thread i linked below, he actually tried to justify me pointing out that "blasting a continent off a planet" is not the same as just searing it in the most absurd example of linguistic acrobatics i have ever seen outside SDN.

He was later in the thread made to look even more stupid as General Schatten (obviously used to SDN levels of moderational bias) expanded on his claim and blew SS4's stupid, absurd and long winded justification for the comment being "scemantics" out of the water.

http://forums.spacebattles.com/showthre ... 355&page=2

Even Skyzeta tried some silly threat games on me (1, 2, 3), about me sniping (?) and not providing sources, as claimed by Lord Vespasian. What would he do? Force me to post? :D
Fortunately enough, I didn't pander to his absurd desires, so I denied him that bone. :)
That, in a long list of examples of glaring bias.
The only post I sniped - and I'm not even sure Skyzeta noticed it since he clearly said he didn't pay much attention to that thread ("from what little I've been able to dicipher from this little shit storm...") - was that one, after trying to educate kyosanim on simple matters about perspective and the validity of data over several pages... not counting the two or so previous threads wherein I had already tried to get those points across kyosanim's head repeatedly, but to no avail.
Contextually, I was dealing with a "brick wall" as we say it, and there just was no end to it. I clearly pointed out at the very end of this post that I was done with it. For the reference, Kyosanim is Point45's Trek equivalent, with better grammar. :)

Only C. Razor ever appeared fair (and open to discussion btw).

[User1596]

Another interesting thing I noticed SuperS4 has started closing threads and claiming one side wins by default. Oddly enough it is the side his supporters are on.

[Mr. Oragahn]

Another interesting thing I noticed SuperS4 has started closing threads and claiming one side wins by default. Oddly enough it is the side his supporters are on.

Examples?

[Mike DiCenso]

Yes, it's one thing to say something like that, but providing links to threads is helpful for making your case.
-Mike

[User1596]

Here

It's especially funny since he acts like the OP requested the thread be closed when he was in the middle of arguing about it in the thread.

[Mike DiCenso]

Thanks for posting the link. It'll take a while to completely read through that, but I did skip through to the end of the thread where SS4 shut down the thread. Very interesting and very disturbing.
-Mike

[User1596]

Eh seems like the natural progression to a SD mindset that seems to be creeping in.

I'm just surprised the admins let him get away with that stuff.

[Jedi Master Spock]

It's very odd to see something like this:

Thread locked as per request by OP: GF loses by default.

Where, in the SB rules, does it say that moderators are supposed to decide which side wins in a debate? I think I missed that.

[Mr. Oragahn]

Imho there's nothing serious about SS4's comment on the GF. It's quite a small thread btw. I wouldn't look too much into it, no one would really give a damn. He could have declared anything, the result would have been the same.