so, should Star Trek XI be successful and paramount decide to launch another series, what would you like to see.
Not that any of this will actually happen.
My favored ideas are as follows
Saga of a Star Empire- A series taking place entirely aboard a Romulan ship
Starfleet Marines- we follow some starfleet grunts through the Dominion War
Star Trek: Titan- Rikers adventures on the USS Titan, actually the most likely to get made.
Yesterdays Enterprise- follow the Enterprise C up until it gets destroyed at praxis
Star Trek: Excelsior- Sulu's command of the Excelsior
Ideas for the next Star Trek
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Well, the "logical" follow-up to doing a nostalgia prequel would be to go to the Excelsior era.
If STXI doesn't do as well as Nemesis did, I can easily see Paramount exploring the idea of doing a short series from within the Romulan Star Empire.
Star Trek: Titan isn't going to happen after the book series launched. As logical a follow-up as it might be to Nemesis, I think the book series happening was an indication that the higher-ups didn't think it would be worth following Captain Riker on the screen.
Yesterday's Enterprise would fill in some huge gaps in the timeline, but then, we "already know" when the E-C was destroyed, which removes a lot of cliff-hanger tension - ("Will the ship be destroyed? Of course not!").
Personally, I'd like to see a series exploring the Klingon Empire taking steps towards reform and integration with the Federation. If it's set in the early 25th century, we have lots of opportunities for cameos and people who tie the series in with the past - from an older Worf and mature Alexander the peacemaker, returned Voyager crew (Captain Harry Kim of the USS Rhode Island, Admiral Janeway, Captain Nog...) - but it's clearly not necessary.
If STXI doesn't do as well as Nemesis did, I can easily see Paramount exploring the idea of doing a short series from within the Romulan Star Empire.
Star Trek: Titan isn't going to happen after the book series launched. As logical a follow-up as it might be to Nemesis, I think the book series happening was an indication that the higher-ups didn't think it would be worth following Captain Riker on the screen.
Yesterday's Enterprise would fill in some huge gaps in the timeline, but then, we "already know" when the E-C was destroyed, which removes a lot of cliff-hanger tension - ("Will the ship be destroyed? Of course not!").
Personally, I'd like to see a series exploring the Klingon Empire taking steps towards reform and integration with the Federation. If it's set in the early 25th century, we have lots of opportunities for cameos and people who tie the series in with the past - from an older Worf and mature Alexander the peacemaker, returned Voyager crew (Captain Harry Kim of the USS Rhode Island, Admiral Janeway, Captain Nog...) - but it's clearly not necessary.
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hm, I was under the impression that Titan had some support from people actually involved in making Trek.
I know at the very least that Frakes is pretty interested in doing the series. of course who knows how much weight he pulls at paramount.
for yesterday's enterprise you could always establish the suspense by having a high attrition rate among the main cast. for all we know Captain Garrett was the ships 4th commanding officer. The oh, no, the ship's in imminent danger thing is a bit over used, and there's never really any question of it anyway. but if it was established that well liked characters are in jeopardy, that's a different game.
I know at the very least that Frakes is pretty interested in doing the series. of course who knows how much weight he pulls at paramount.
for yesterday's enterprise you could always establish the suspense by having a high attrition rate among the main cast. for all we know Captain Garrett was the ships 4th commanding officer. The oh, no, the ship's in imminent danger thing is a bit over used, and there's never really any question of it anyway. but if it was established that well liked characters are in jeopardy, that's a different game.
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If anything, I'd like to see an entirely new Starfleet crew set in the late 24th-early 25th century, taking the opportunity to exploit the bonanza of new technology gained after Voyager's return. I'd like to see just what happened to all that tech.
Set perhaps in 2398, 20 years after Voyager's return, the Federation has developed practical quantum slipstream technology and has begun to greatly expand its exploration, meeting a number of new species, both friendly and hostile, as well as seeing what our old friends have been up to. What were the repercussions of the Reman incident? A renegotiation of the Treaty of Algeron, perhaps? What happened to the Borg after the destruction of the collective mind and the queen? Perhaps Gegen's theory wasn't quashed in time, and some idealistic Voth comes looking for the long lost planet of his origin? What is Section 31 up to these days?
Personally, I think it would be interesting to do a series with several ships and crews, each exploring in a separate area of space, each in some way affected by what the others are doing. One week we'd see one crew doing such and such in Quadrant Over Here, then next week another crew doing this, that and the other in Quadrant Over There. Occasionally the two could meet, perhaps for a battle or joint scientific operation. And, of course, we could catch up on all our old friends from previous series. It'd be a marked departure from the way Trek has been done in the past, and a risky, massive, expensive undertaking on Paramount's part, but I'd say that's just what is needed to breathe new life into the franchise.
Set perhaps in 2398, 20 years after Voyager's return, the Federation has developed practical quantum slipstream technology and has begun to greatly expand its exploration, meeting a number of new species, both friendly and hostile, as well as seeing what our old friends have been up to. What were the repercussions of the Reman incident? A renegotiation of the Treaty of Algeron, perhaps? What happened to the Borg after the destruction of the collective mind and the queen? Perhaps Gegen's theory wasn't quashed in time, and some idealistic Voth comes looking for the long lost planet of his origin? What is Section 31 up to these days?
Personally, I think it would be interesting to do a series with several ships and crews, each exploring in a separate area of space, each in some way affected by what the others are doing. One week we'd see one crew doing such and such in Quadrant Over Here, then next week another crew doing this, that and the other in Quadrant Over There. Occasionally the two could meet, perhaps for a battle or joint scientific operation. And, of course, we could catch up on all our old friends from previous series. It'd be a marked departure from the way Trek has been done in the past, and a risky, massive, expensive undertaking on Paramount's part, but I'd say that's just what is needed to breathe new life into the franchise.
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I think in a lot of ways Voyager (and from what I understand about certain time-travel episodes of Enterprise) put a big fat period on the Star Trek chronology. The Federation is poised to become the biggest power in the alpha quadrant and beyond. I mean, if the crew of Voyager could reverse engineer future Janeway's shuttle tech, just imagine what Starfleet Command will do with it. The Dominion is gone, the Borg are no longer a threat.
All this is good, and a fitting end if you ask me. Ingenuity, tenacity, and compassion paid off. Good for the Federation. While I'd like to see the story continue, I'd hate for it to center around the rise of yet another evil empire with even better technology. If they don't backtrack, I really hope they can be creative (or even better, subversive) about the antagonists.
If I were in charge, I'd try to bridge the gap between TOS and TNG. The Federation seems to have gone through some changes in that era, as I've pointed out during lengthy communism-related discussions. That might be interesting to investigate.
All this is good, and a fitting end if you ask me. Ingenuity, tenacity, and compassion paid off. Good for the Federation. While I'd like to see the story continue, I'd hate for it to center around the rise of yet another evil empire with even better technology. If they don't backtrack, I really hope they can be creative (or even better, subversive) about the antagonists.
If I were in charge, I'd try to bridge the gap between TOS and TNG. The Federation seems to have gone through some changes in that era, as I've pointed out during lengthy communism-related discussions. That might be interesting to investigate.
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I'd like to see a tie-in with the Tal Shiar, Section 31 and the Obsidian order, and see them try to acquire a Super weapon of the week that was kept in tight lock by Starfleet, in order to replace the leaders of their respective governments by people more in their line of thinking.
Perhaps using Jem'Hadar soldiers cloned by them and loyal to them only.
Using the Borg "Batman" armor on a ship, etc...
We could then use many old characters from TNG, DS9 and even Voyager...
Perhaps using Jem'Hadar soldiers cloned by them and loyal to them only.
Using the Borg "Batman" armor on a ship, etc...
We could then use many old characters from TNG, DS9 and even Voyager...
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Takei was very interested in a series following Captain Sulu. Similar situation, really, and I think it probably won't go off for similar reasons. I could be wrong - if the folks at CBS like Frakes, they might give it a shot, it's just that precedent suggests it won't happen.Flectarn wrote:hm, I was under the impression that Titan had some support from people actually involved in making Trek.
I know at the very least that Frakes is pretty interested in doing the series. of course who knows how much weight he pulls at paramount.
It's a shame, really, because they haven't tried having a happily married captain, which it seems like Riker would be. All the central leader figures of the various series (Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, and Archer) had a string of failed romantic relationships during their shows. I think Sisko had the least, but I'm not sure.
Of course, then we might be risking a Troi-in-a-fridge episode...
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I am not sure a war would fit. Maybe they could follow Voyager and have an alliance of the UFP and some other technologically advanced race attempt to build a knock off the device that can throw ships over long distances.
Initially developped as an experiment to establish new main routes of exchange, the first one, which required years of efforts, is still a limited device which can only cover a small distance and, albeit superior to the fastest common warp speed, not capable of covering the Milky Way in a single shot, and still takes time.
The first batch of tests worked, and a couple of ships and crews have been selected for the official inauguration. It's a big party, located somewhere in alpha quadrant, plenty of races and what have you.
A large cargo is sent, it works. Meanwhile, a bunch of terrorists or whatever wish to actually destroy this device.
You get the picture, things will go well until one ship goes into the machine, the thing is fired up and terrorists blow it up, sending the ship far far away.
The explosion is so violent that all the ships present there are destroyed and eventually a whole space station is kicked on a crash route with the local planet. Boom. A tragedy.
The ship which got thrown away was a large civilian ship with different communities, scientists, historians and ambassadors from many worlds, used as a symbol for the event.
It departs from the traditional Starfleet, where we're dealing with a lot of people from different parts of the quadrant, led by the highest ranking civilian, an UFP alien. There's a basic amount of military personnel, largely bodyguards for all representatives, and they have to be managed and congregated into an unique defense force.
Where does this ship end? Beyond the Sagittarius dwarf elliptical galaxy, in the void on the other side, a couple thousand light years away from the galaxy's near stars.
So much of the first episodes consist of organizing life on the ship while plotting a course through Sagittarius and to return to the Milky Way.
Sagittarius would be less fucked up, in that there would be near to no humanoid aliens as Trek audiences were used to, and largely less funky bizarro space anomalies, safe for some curious events taking place in the galaxy's core.
But there would be a whole different type of species and organization between them. They'd be more ethereal and magic in a way, and the ship would represent an important asset that some of these aliens would want to use according to their own plans and ideologies.
The pitch would be DS9 in a ship, with less war, less plastic make up and far more exotic exploration and mind boggling alien species, which ways would still remain very eluding after the last season.
At some point, the people of the ship would try to build a small ship thrower to get to home quicker, but the device wouldn't work properly, so they'd leave it behind them. That device, however, would be captured or destroyed. The first for further stories. The second because the aliens wouldn't allow such a machine to remain in their galaxy.
I suppose at some point that you could throw a more primitive derelict Borg ship in there. ;)
The other being an Academy-centric show, a bit like Starship Troopers mind you, with different groups going left and right across space.
Initially developped as an experiment to establish new main routes of exchange, the first one, which required years of efforts, is still a limited device which can only cover a small distance and, albeit superior to the fastest common warp speed, not capable of covering the Milky Way in a single shot, and still takes time.
The first batch of tests worked, and a couple of ships and crews have been selected for the official inauguration. It's a big party, located somewhere in alpha quadrant, plenty of races and what have you.
A large cargo is sent, it works. Meanwhile, a bunch of terrorists or whatever wish to actually destroy this device.
You get the picture, things will go well until one ship goes into the machine, the thing is fired up and terrorists blow it up, sending the ship far far away.
The explosion is so violent that all the ships present there are destroyed and eventually a whole space station is kicked on a crash route with the local planet. Boom. A tragedy.
The ship which got thrown away was a large civilian ship with different communities, scientists, historians and ambassadors from many worlds, used as a symbol for the event.
It departs from the traditional Starfleet, where we're dealing with a lot of people from different parts of the quadrant, led by the highest ranking civilian, an UFP alien. There's a basic amount of military personnel, largely bodyguards for all representatives, and they have to be managed and congregated into an unique defense force.
Where does this ship end? Beyond the Sagittarius dwarf elliptical galaxy, in the void on the other side, a couple thousand light years away from the galaxy's near stars.
So much of the first episodes consist of organizing life on the ship while plotting a course through Sagittarius and to return to the Milky Way.
Sagittarius would be less fucked up, in that there would be near to no humanoid aliens as Trek audiences were used to, and largely less funky bizarro space anomalies, safe for some curious events taking place in the galaxy's core.
But there would be a whole different type of species and organization between them. They'd be more ethereal and magic in a way, and the ship would represent an important asset that some of these aliens would want to use according to their own plans and ideologies.
The pitch would be DS9 in a ship, with less war, less plastic make up and far more exotic exploration and mind boggling alien species, which ways would still remain very eluding after the last season.
At some point, the people of the ship would try to build a small ship thrower to get to home quicker, but the device wouldn't work properly, so they'd leave it behind them. That device, however, would be captured or destroyed. The first for further stories. The second because the aliens wouldn't allow such a machine to remain in their galaxy.
I suppose at some point that you could throw a more primitive derelict Borg ship in there. ;)
The other being an Academy-centric show, a bit like Starship Troopers mind you, with different groups going left and right across space.
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War? Been there, done that.
Lost ship? Been there, done that.
Captain Riker? Ugh. I loved Frakes, mind you, but I don't think those two could carry a show anymore. Sirtis is past her prime and the Riker character lacks the depth he had early on . . . once the beard came along we sort of lost him, save for sporadic good moments.
What we'd probably end up with then is some high-profile younger character who would be the real focus, but that just gets complicated and unrealistic for such a production.
Trek was initially meant to comment on things, not just blow shit up real good. While there is still plenty Trek could say, the simple fact is that I rather doubt modern Hollywood could manage to say it on a weekly basis. We had the chance with Coto, but lost it. Best to leave it be for now.
Lost ship? Been there, done that.
Captain Riker? Ugh. I loved Frakes, mind you, but I don't think those two could carry a show anymore. Sirtis is past her prime and the Riker character lacks the depth he had early on . . . once the beard came along we sort of lost him, save for sporadic good moments.
What we'd probably end up with then is some high-profile younger character who would be the real focus, but that just gets complicated and unrealistic for such a production.
Trek was initially meant to comment on things, not just blow shit up real good. While there is still plenty Trek could say, the simple fact is that I rather doubt modern Hollywood could manage to say it on a weekly basis. We had the chance with Coto, but lost it. Best to leave it be for now.
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Talk about lost opportunities with that concept. Just read Ron Moore's interviewsometime about what could have been done with Voyager.2046 wrote: Lost ship? Been there, done that.
Sadly the potential of what Manny Coto and his crew was capable of was only glimpsed of in ST:ENT's 3rd and 4th seasons, and some of what they were planning for season 5 was just incredible.... If only Coto or Moore had been the ones in charge of ST:ENT from the begining, it might have made to it's 7th season.2046 wrote: Trek was initially meant to comment on things, not just blow shit up real good. While there is still plenty Trek could say, the simple fact is that I rather doubt modern Hollywood could manage to say it on a weekly basis. We had the chance with Coto, but lost it. Best to leave it be for now.
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I'am kind of disappointed that Braga and Berman did not stay with the original concept for ST:ENT's first season to take place on Earth while the NX-01 is under construction. That had a lot of potential, and would have made for a more interesting story arc than the lackluster Temporal Cold War arc.Flectarn wrote:Yeah, I've had more than my fill of time travel in Trek.
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