ST-v-SW Cloaking-Devices

[Mr. Oragahn]

The very rare stygium cloaks are like Klingon and Romulan cloaks.
I don't know what description they gave to the cloaking ship we saw in TCWS, the one pen shaped one that fired missiles.

[KirkSkyWalker]

That's the EU.

The comment after the falcon disapeared sums up the SW ability to see through cloaks....

It depends on how you define "see through."
In Star Trek, the cloaks render the ship 100% invisible to sensors or vision alike.

In SW, the cloaks seem to simply absorb sensor-beams so that there's no blips, but the ship's still visible.
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Again, when Han landed the Falcon on the SD, they didn't see it vanish into thin air, it just disappeared off of their scans. Han knew that the SD-scanners had blind-spots within a certain range of the ship, where one could hide; but apparently Piett didn't know. If he did, he could have just turned the ship's cameras onto them, and saw the Falcon sitting there on the hull.

If they had the ability to detect cloaked ships his reply would have been summat like "switch to anticloaking sensors" or "somebody look out a freaking window for it or Vaders gonna shrink my collar size" or words to that effect.

He was obviously uaware of the blind spot as well but his initial reaction to the ship disapearing was to think it could only be a cloak and then mention that a ship that size should not have one.

Han would know every trick on how to fool the Empire, if he was the best smuggler; but landing on a Star Destroyer would have to be a new one even in his book, so there's no way that Piett would think of it-- particularly since he only got his job through "seniority."
Rather, he'd be a by-the-book bureaucrat, and would think "if a ship disappears from scans, suspect cloaking technology.--Imperial Navy Handbook, Title 37 Section 14-32(b)."

[Mike DiCenso]

More embarassing here for the Empire is their lack of contact hull sensors, which even a primitive Earth NX class starship of the 2150's had ["Minefield", Season 2].
-Mike

[KirkSkyWalker]

Didn't they also think that Solo must have just jumped to hyperspace, because he couldn't have a cloaking-device?

[Mike DiCenso]

Yes, that's one way of looking at it. Needa says "No ship that small has a cloaking device". But in TCW's "Cat and Mouse", a big deal is made about the cloaking ship that Anakin makes use of to deliver supplies to the embattled Republic world of Christophsis because it is so small... However this is a roughly 130 meter long ship, more than four times the length of the Falcon, about twice it's internal volume, and it was only a prototype just as Gen. Chang's Fire-While-Cloaked BoP was.
-Mike

[KirkSkyWalker]

Again, that's EU-- as well as a fricking cartoon.

I'm sure ST:TAS has some contradictions as well with the live-action series.

[Mike DiCenso]

Actually the TCW CGI series is not part of the regular EU, it's T-level canon according to Leland Chee, which is above C-level canon, but below G-level. However, George Lucas not only is a producer for the TCW series, he's also written for it, and approves of it as a legit continuation (filling in the blanks) of his story.
-Mike

[Lucky]

Of course, TCW is EU.

The CGI series is T-canon, and not part of the EU.

The EU is C and lower canon.

[Praeothmin]

The very rare stygium cloaks are like Klingon and Romulan cloaks.
I don't know what description they gave to the cloaking ship we saw in TCWS, the one pen shaped one that fired missiles.

I thought that ST cloaks such as the Klingon's and Romulans didn't even register on gravimetric scans?
St has had gravity scanning technology for ages, and they still couldn't detect Romulan or Klingon cloaked ships through standard scans, only through the Tachyon net...
So that would make even the Stygian cloak less powerful then the ST ones...