Admiral Breetai wrote:What I don't get is for example if there are hundreds of quadrillions of people in the galaxy, that worlds as industrialized and developed as the capital why is it they could only muster in the EU twenty five thousand ISD's and maybe a half a million other ships? why are worlds like Curoscant so massively burdensome that they need to import water for christs sakes...Jesus i mean the entire expansion region is a depleted territory barely holding onto its former glory and this is by and large due to the massive burden of sustaining the core worlds specifically the capital?
this is canon from the EU no less while it is not from SWST's bible the ICS or his pope Wong it is from viable and consistent canon sources hell the expansion region was so resentful at its being essentially pimped out by Curoscant a huge portion of the imperial fleet was tied down maintaining order there and as a result took the alliance nearly twenty years to get there..and when they did and took Curo as the capital the ER basically tossed a middle finger at the alliance
I mean seriously WTF how can you even rationalize or even consent to cite the ICS population figures in the face of this and this is something like nearly eighteen years of consistent writing no less
and of course going by the movies the imperial capital is basically the only planet we see with a population higher than say a billion or so (nabu seems to be a stretch its not the average planet and even then it seems to have a very small population ) with most worlds even the damn CIS strongholds all seemingly having hundreds of thousands to millions
we see the burden on the industry is so great that there are likely more Battlestars in NBSG than there are ISD's heck B5 could muster larger fleets then we saw at Endor i mean seriously the single greatest fleet engagement in the history of the star wars movie universe was ep3 battle and likely only a few hundred ships if that participated
what that tells me is man power and resource and production are very small compared to other such galactic civilizations and that the galaxies population maybe reach nine hundred or so trillion..but its more than likely its much smaller with the vast majority of the population being concentrated on the capital..and in the inner sectors of the galaxy
honestly SWST how long can you ignore this and still remain honest with yourself?
Trouble is, there's a problem of scale, as usual. Secondly, there's Saxton, who clearly did what was necessary to distill enough poison so that a rather hard to maintain consistency would get further eroded. Thirdly, you have the fact that some topics had never been really dealt with. Like galactic population. Fourth, you have the prequels and Lucas, which forced the EU to retcon some material and obviously, made many people reconsider their view of the universe that Star Wars was.
Now, I consider that 1 trillion for Coruscant is a bit low, but it we're supposed to think in terms of what makes sense, I'd say that Coruscant itself makes no damn sense at all. I've seen many descriptions of the Republic and how it's a wonderful democracy that spread peace, "intellectualism" and technology to the four corners of the galaxy, yet the people of Coruscant were somehow too dumb and too poor to actually think of leaving that shit hole and live somewhere else? Since, honestly, no sane mind would ever agree to live on such a world. It baffles the mind precisely because it's totally nonsensical. The likes of New York and Tokyo are already driving people to the limits of what the human mind can withstand, and there's more people in one cubic mile of the upper crust of Coruscant than in those two cities combined (I think, I'm just throwing numbers here).
The Atlas is a great attempt at trying to depict a solid view of the SW galaxy, but it has its own issues.
For one, it introduced a new figure for the population of Naboo. Now, I don't know if it's meant to be a population figure for another age, but it's clearly not fitting with anything remotely close to the era between TPM or anything of the EU around the GE that we saw about this planet - it had barely changed at all.
It also gave us a view of the population density on the galactic scale, and there's somehow a problem here, as it shows that there are too many regions with low pop densities.
The multi-quadrillion figures are already problematic.
It would be far better for the total sentient pop to be rated in the trillions, with Coruscant taking a big piece of it.
I pretty much doubt that Lucas believes that there are many Coruscant-like places in his universe.
The problem of scales being that Lucas introduced it very early with his Death Stars that pop out of nowhere. Well, the first one took some time to build -and heck, despite his so called insane attention to detail, he insisted that the already very advanced station we see at the end of ROTS was the Death Star, while its structure didn't even correspond to that of the battle station we knew in ANH.
