HOW DID HUMANS GET IN THE STAR WARS GALAXY PAST?

[Praeothmin]

Ah, so you are just going to disregard evidence that you don't like. Then this is not a debate, it's you shouting a crazy unsupported theory and saying you're right and every one else is wrong. If you just wanted to spout nonsense and not debate there are many other places to do so... Perhaps you should put your story in a story section and keep it out of the debate area, and next time if you could just write "I have no interest in debating" in advance so we can save time and ignore it from the start I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

Trinoya, didn't you know this was KSW's modus operandi?
Whenever he doesn't like evidence, just like SWST, he pretends it doesn't matter or that it never existed...

Since you don't have a rational answer, you're dismissed.

Since you can't refute his arguments properly, you're dismissed... :)

[StarWarsStarTrek]

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The real question is...how did Star Wars humans get into the Milky Way?

[Praeothmin]

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The real question is...how did Star Wars humans get into the Milky Way?

And in both cases:
Why did neither of them bring their technology with them?

[StarWarsStarTrek]

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The real question is...how did Star Wars humans get into the Milky Way?

And in both cases:
Why did neither of them bring their technology with them?

Who says they didn't? The Pyramids strangely resemble certain Ratakan structures.

[Praeothmin]

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The real question is...how did Star Wars humans get into the Milky Way?

And in both cases:
Why did neither of them bring their technology with them?

Who says they didn't? The Pyramids strangely resemble certain Ratakan structures.

But where's the Rakatan technology?

[Trinoya]

The Gould took it. ^_-

[KSW]

Pyramids aren't exactly high-tech. They're geometric structures of piled stone masonry, whatever uneducated persons think. Mainly they were public make-work projects to keep migrant-workers from moving away during the off-seasons.

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The real question is...how did Star Wars humans get into the Milky Way?

Er.... they didn't. If they did, they'd have brought their tech with them.

Meanwhile in Star Wars, we see that humans exist in the past in another galaxy-- while likewise, the canon says that hyperdrive technology came from outside the galaxy, which fits with their pre-warp level of other technology.

The same species can't evolve on two entirely different planets purely by chance. Therefore clearly humans evolved on Earth, and then got to the other galaxy though space and time.

[Praeothmin]

while likewise, the canon says that hyperdrive technology came from outside the galaxy, which fits with their pre-warp level of other technology.

Again, with the unsupported claims?
While it may not be much faster than Warp, Hyperspace travel is faster, so if the ST humans truly were thrown in the SW Galaxy, than they'd be using Warp, not Hyperdrives...

[Picard]

Very, very unidimensional thinking, Praetho. If Star Trek Federation seeded humans into Star Wars galaxy's past, then they needed that fancy-shmancy thing called "time travel". If they had time travel, then they could have come from ANY point of time. And "any point of time", naturally, includes future. So it is entirely possible that, at some point of time, in some timeline (since it doesn't even have to be main timeline, cosidering one can go between alternate universes at will), Federation developed hyperdrive, and some hyperdrive-equipped group ended up going from Star Trek galaxy to Star Wars one's past, and brought hyperdrive with them. Especially considering that "Transwarp" is just general term for any drive faster than warp drive.

[Praeothmin]

Very, very unidimensional thinking, Praetho. If Star Trek Federation seeded humans into Star Wars galaxy's past, then they needed that fancy-shmancy thing called "time travel". If they had time travel, then they could have come from ANY point of time. And "any point of time", naturally, includes future. So it is entirely possible that, at some point of time, in some timeline (since it doesn't even have to be main timeline, cosidering one can go between alternate universes at will), Federation developed hyperdrive, and some hyperdrive-equipped group ended up going from Star Trek galaxy to Star Wars one's past, and brought hyperdrive with them. Especially considering that "Transwarp" is just general term for any drive faster than warp drive.

I have the unidimensional thinking, yet you seem to also refuse the simple TNG explanation that Trinoya brought:
Aliens, the same ones who seeded our Galaxy, also used those seeds to seed the SW Galaxy...

[Admiral Breetai]

The same species can't evolve on two entirely different planets purely by chance. Therefore clearly humans evolved on Earth, and then got to the other galaxy though space and time.

this is actually canon in the EU

Colonists from earth or a human run empire and a wormhole accident

[Picard]

Very, very unidimensional thinking, Praetho. If Star Trek Federation seeded humans into Star Wars galaxy's past, then they needed that fancy-shmancy thing called "time travel". If they had time travel, then they could have come from ANY point of time. And "any point of time", naturally, includes future. So it is entirely possible that, at some point of time, in some timeline (since it doesn't even have to be main timeline, cosidering one can go between alternate universes at will), Federation developed hyperdrive, and some hyperdrive-equipped group ended up going from Star Trek galaxy to Star Wars one's past, and brought hyperdrive with them. Especially considering that "Transwarp" is just general term for any drive faster than warp drive.

I have the unidimensional thinking, yet you seem to also refuse the simple TNG explanation that Trinoya brought:
Aliens, the same ones who seeded our Galaxy, also used those seeds to seed the SW Galaxy...

Explanation, which I wasn't even aware of, since I only skimmed throught thread, althought I have thought of it before. And it is... less than perfect. Why so many humans in Star Wars galaxy? That would mean that aliens travelled throught space and seeded several galaxies. Also, if you remember actual episode, they seeded humanoid life in Milky Way, all of it. Yet we see many, althought sometimes minor, differences - but differences are there, whereas humans in Star Wars galaxy seem to be exactly same as humans in Star Trek galaxy. As such, that explanation can be used for, say, Mon Calamari, and other humanoid aliens, but not for humans themselves.

[Trinoya]

We also have cases of very similar humanoids evolving on other worlds, and at least one planet that had conditions so closely related to earth that it had humans evolve and share a history with us.

It's likely easier to presume, due to the high nature of creatures that look pretty much identical to humans on the outside that the 'human' model is the 'preferred' evolutionary model on most M-class worlds. Not surprising as we consider these 20+ examples!

Aldeans
Angosians
Ardanans
Argelians
Baku
Bandi
Beta III Native
Betazoids
Brekkians
Capellans
Dinaali
Edo
Ekosians
El-Aurians
Iotian
Ligonians
Mari
Omega IV humanoids
Scalosians
Sikarians
Serosians
Tarkarians
Tarellians
Teplans
Vori
Yaderans


A good final conclusion: Humans are everywhere and clearly were not limited to evolving on earth. Some humans have a greater range of certain abilities (such as espers and what not), but many are so identical it might as well come down to the difference between a human and a peacekeeper (bacteria..).

Also a honorable mention: Mintakan who evolved to look like Vulcans, meaning the phenomenon isn't limited to just humans.

[Khas]

Well, nice to see Trinoya and I reached the same conclusion.

That these are a separate evolution of humans, much like how the Ancients were in the Stargate universe.

[Lucky]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse ... sification

Level I: Beyond our cosmological horizon
A generic prediction of chaotic inflation is an infinite ergodic universe, which, being infinite, must contain Hubble volumes realizing all initial conditions.
Accordingly, an infinite universe will contain an infinite number of Hubble volumes, all having the same physical laws and physical constants. In regard to configurations such as the distribution of matter, almost all will differ from our Hubble volume. However, because there are infinitely many, far beyond the cosmological horizon, there will eventually be Hubble volumes with similar, and even identical, configurations. Tegmark estimates that an identical volume to ours should be about 1010115 meters away from us.[4][5] This estimate implies use of the cosmological principle, wherein one assumes our Hubble volume is not special or unique. By extension of the same reasoning, there would, in fact, be an infinite number of Hubble volumes identical to ours in the universe.

Humans don't need Earth to evolve. All that is needed is a set of conditions that select the traits that lead to humans, and according to Multiverse theory this will happen to the point where there are worlds that are exactly the same. It's simply a matter of probability. You just need to roll the dice enough times.