Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

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Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Jasonb » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:14 am

Both side go different law of physical come get weapon locked target those law phyical going have effects. EW warfare the same thing design block senser accord those law physical. While question effective cloak device be after all Star War senser not likley effect by the Star War law physical. Or can someone here explian why any defense system work prevent either weapon lock or effect prevent other side commucation own forces.

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Lucky » Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:34 am

Jasonb wrote:Both side go different law of physical come get weapon locked target those law phyical going have effects. EW warfare the same thing design block senser accord those law physical. While question effective cloak device be after all Star War senser not likley effect by the Star War law physical. Or can someone here explian why any defense system work prevent either weapon lock or effect prevent other side commucation own forces.
Are you claiming that Star Wars and Star Trek universes operate on different laws of physics, and therefore neither can do anything to the other?

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Jasonb » Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:25 am

Lucky wrote:
Jasonb wrote:Both side go different law of physical come get weapon locked target those law phyical going have effects. EW warfare the same thing design block senser accord those law physical. While question effective cloak device be after all Star War senser not likley effect by the Star War law physical. Or can someone here explian why any defense system work prevent either weapon lock or effect prevent other side commucation own forces.
Are you claiming that Star Wars and Star Trek universes operate on different laws of physics, and therefore neither can do anything to the other?
Well have take follow factors subspace the Empire even know that existed not going right way jam commutation. Empire us some kind faster light communication as well the UFP unlikely technology jam.

Empire able to pick fact rebel raise shields light years away well again they have go beyond our law physical.

Federation sensors seem violation know laws physical. Star terk subspace sensor violation the law phyical as well. UFP subspace sensor can pick enemy starship light years away.

Yes is likely some EW warfare works and others did not.

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Lucky » Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:27 am

Jasonb wrote:
Well have take follow factors subspace the Empire even know that existed not going right way jam commutation. Empire us some kind faster light communication as well the UFP unlikely technology jam.

Empire able to pick fact rebel raise shields light years away well again they have go beyond our law physical.

Federation sensors seem violation know laws physical. Star terk subspace sensor violation the law physical as well. UFP subspace sensor can pick enemy starship light years away.

Yes is likely some EW warfare works and others did not.
We know that Electromagnetic fields can interfere with Star Trek communications, and that means it is possible for Star Wars ECM to be at least mildly effective.

Star Trek forces are well versed in dimensional travel, and that means that they can likely figure out how to effect Star wars vessels with ECM.
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Where are you getting the information on Star Wars sensors being able to detect a shield over a Rebel base from light years away?

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Jasonb » Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:27 pm

Lucky wrote:
Jasonb wrote:
Well have take follow factors subspace the Empire even know that existed not going right way jam commutation. Empire us some kind faster light communication as well the UFP unlikely technology jam.

Empire able to pick fact rebel raise shields light years away well again they have go beyond our law physical.

Federation sensors seem violation know laws physical. Star terk subspace sensor violation the law physical as well. UFP subspace sensor can pick enemy starship light years away.

Yes is likely some EW warfare works and others did not.
We know that Electromagnetic fields can interfere with Star Trek communications, and that means it is possible for Star Wars ECM to be at least mildly effective.

Star Trek forces are well versed in dimensional travel, and that means that they can likely figure out how to effect Star wars vessels with ECM.
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Where are you getting the information on Star Wars sensors being able to detect a shield over a Rebel base from light years away?
Ok the Empire might able pick rebel base few light hour away.

Agree that some from EW warfare work other would jam ECM I think be example were the two effective jam each at least first.

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Lucky » Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:46 am

Jasonb wrote: Ok the Empire might able pick rebel base few light hour away.
Why would the Imps need FTL sensors to know a shield was turned on?

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Jasonb » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:53 am

Lucky wrote:
Jasonb wrote: Ok the Empire might able pick rebel base few light hour away.
Why would the Imps need FTL sensors to know a shield was turned on?
To plan on how to attack the rebel base if get total by surpise knock shield generation out right then and their.

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Lucky » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:05 am

Jasonb wrote: To plan on how to attack the rebel base if get total by surpise knock shield generation out right then and their.
If the Star Destroyers had faster then light sensors then the Rebels on Hoth would as well. What makes you think the Star Destroyers have faster then light sensors?

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Jasonb » Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:28 pm

Lucky wrote:
Jasonb wrote: To plan on how to attack the rebel base if get total by surpise knock shield generation out right then and their.
If the Star Destroyers had faster then light sensors then the Rebels on Hoth would as well. What makes you think the Star Destroyers have faster then light sensors?
Star War sensor some unknown reason can scan object in hyperspace.

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Lucky » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:51 am

Jasonb wrote: To plan on how to attack the rebel base if get total by surpise knock shield generation out right then and their.
Lucky wrote: If the Star Destroyers had faster then light sensors then the Rebels on Hoth would as well. What makes you think the Star Destroyers have faster then light sensors?
Jasonb wrote: Star War sensor some unknown reason can scan object in hyperspace.
And where are you getting this information from? Being able to sense a gravity well is very different then what you are describing.

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Jasonb » Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:26 pm

Lucky wrote:
Jasonb wrote: To plan on how to attack the rebel base if get total by surpise knock shield generation out right then and their.
Lucky wrote: If the Star Destroyers had faster then light sensors then the Rebels on Hoth would as well. What makes you think the Star Destroyers have faster then light sensors?
Jasonb wrote: Star War sensor some unknown reason can scan object in hyperspace.
And where are you getting this information from? Being able to sense a gravity well is very different then what you are describing.
Empire strike back the Empire detect that rebel shield raise least few light hours away

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by 359 » Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:08 pm

Jasonb wrote:Empire strike back the Empire detect that rebel shield raise least few light hours away
No, in the movie the scene before Vadar is informed of their arrival we see the planet Hoth in view and quite large. They are not even a light-minute away maybe a few light-seconds.

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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by Mike DiCenso » Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:37 am

He might be getting when the Rebels detect the star destroyers with Veers' report to Vader about detecting the shields.
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Re: Why GA vrs the UFP EW warfare usless

Post by 359 » Fri Aug 17, 2012 8:49 pm

Veer's report on the shield is after we see the fleet at Hoth, the same time Vadar is informed of their arrival. Their arrival so close to the planet was what alearted the rebals.

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