Dumb question re: Venator

[2046]

. . . does anyone know where the hell the name "Venator" came from? I know it's Latin and all that, I'm just wondering who started calling it that and how it came to be the common name.

[Lucky]

. . . does anyone know where the hell the name "Venator" came from? I know it's Latin and all that, I'm just wondering who started calling it that and how it came to be the common name.

Wookiepedia seems to say that the Revenge of the Sith Incredible Cross Sections is the source of the name.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Venator- ... ections1-7

[2046]

Well the RotS script and the new StarWars.com encyclopedia (which seems to go out of its way to avoid non-canon references) both call it the Republic Attack Cruiser, which is what brought it up for me.

I was wondering if it might be backstage information, but obviously not. The fact that it is an ICS invention just makes it that much worse.

Goodbye, Venator.

[Mike DiCenso]

Yup, the Venator name is Saxton trying to promote his vision of things, specifically in this case he is trying to carry on the -tator naming convention that he took of the Geoffery Mandel non-canon fan blueprints that name the original ISD as an Imperator-class Star Destroyer. So he continued it by naming the Republic assault ship "Acclamator" in the AoTC ICS and the Republic Cruiser as "Venator".
-Mike

[Lucky]

Well the RotS script and the new StarWars.com encyclopedia (which seems to go out of its way to avoid non-canon references) both call it the Republic Attack Cruiser, which is what brought it up for me.

I was wondering if it might be backstage information, but obviously not. The fact that it is an ICS invention just makes it that much worse.

Goodbye, Venator.

While what you say is true, "Republic Attack Cruiser" seems to be a role instead of the name of the model of ship. Calling the ship a "Republic Attack Cruiser" could be like calling a certain type of wheeled land transport a "Sport Utility Vehicle".

A Galaxy Class is also a "heavy explorer" isn't it?

[2046]

Please point to another Republic attack cruiser and I will acknowledge your disambiguation request. Until then the canon name stands as far as I am concerned.

[Mr. Oragahn]

Behold the Defibrillator-class.

I guess that the Republic Attack Cruiser is now best called a RAC. The bigger the better. :P

[Enterprise E]

I've heard it referred to many times in The Clone Wars as "Jedi Cruiser".

[Mike DiCenso]

Same here. Neither the Acclamators, nor the Venators have ever been referred to as anything else in the movies and TCW, not even as star destroyers, which seems to be a nomenclature used exclusively during the Empire era. Most likely the Empire referred to that type of ship as star destroyers is to wipe away an aspect of the former Republic era, and to give their ships a scary and oppressive sounding name.
-Mike

[Mr. Oragahn]

I've heard it referred to many times in The Clone Wars as "Jedi Cruiser".

There is a main ideological and militaristic implication that the most important ship type of the Republic's fleet is called as such.
As seen in the movies and the show, the hierarchy strictly conforms to the Jedi Order and they're turned into warriors. Clever Sith trick. It also seems to imply that Jedi are expected to be found on such ships, otherwise there's just no point to refer to them as Jedi Cruisers.
Unless the labeling is meant to be forced and, for propaganda needs, really give the idea that the Jedi "possess" the Fleet.

[Picard]

Or it could be simple slang; Jedi are generals in the Republic army, when in space they command from these cruisers, so it is called "Jedi cruiser".

[Mr. Oragahn]

Or it could be simple slang; Jedi are generals in the Republic army, when in space they command from these cruisers, so it is called "Jedi cruiser".

Then they'd call Jedi [---] any vehicle or place where they command from. Like Jedi Tower, Jedi Tank, Jedi Desk, Jedi Niezsplutsh, etc. It makes more sense if there's really something supposedly related to the Jedi themselves, something meaningful, besides the random presence of a Jedi General or not. Otherwise they'd be called Clone Cruisers, really. Would make far more sense.
It could be slang but there's no use of any other term thus far, so that's not good for the slang theory. Also, if it's absolutely, literally related to Jedi command, wouldn't it mean that there should be as many of those cruisers as there were Jedi commanders?

[Lucky]

Please point to another Republic attack cruiser and I will acknowledge your disambiguation request. Until then the canon name stands as far as I am concerned.

i can't unless you want me to drag in some rather silly seeming EU nonsense of the Republic having something like 10 ships built to carry out the same role, but I'm not sure why you are making such an outlandish demand that would prove nothing. The Republic should only have one class of ship to fill a given role. Simply put, during the Golf War the U.S.A. had one model of battle ship in action, and that model was not called battleship. The model was called the Iowa class.

It is a waste of resources to have multiple classes to fill a single role because they will lack a commonality of parts. This is the problem with Saxton assumptions about the number of Republic/Imperial designs.

Venator, Republic Attack Cruiser, Republic Flagship, and Jedi Cruiser all refer to the same ship.