The Alpha Beta and Gama Quadrants vs The Zentreadi

[Admiral Breetai]

The Dominion the UFP and Romulan and Klingon star Empires about..fifteen years after the Dominion War are discovered by the Zentreadi fearing these "microns" running wild in the galaxy could cause contamination they dispatch the main boddle fleet..Breetai and..as well as Meltrani (the female) fleet as back up

while the fire power edge seems to clearly rest on the side of the Feds and co can they handle the industrial might of the fighting Giants or their vast numbers?

[Khas]

We've seen in "The Die Is Cast", that 20 Romulan and Cardassian ships were enough to destroy 30% of an Earth-sized planet's crust in just a few seconds. IIRC, 4.8 million Zentradi ships weren't even enough to wipe out all life on Earth, even after hours of bombardment. Zentradi get stomped.

[Admiral Breetai]

We've seen in "The Die Is Cast", that 20 Romulan and Cardassian ships were enough to destroy 30% of an Earth-sized planet's crust in just a few seconds. IIRC, 4.8 million Zentradi ships weren't even enough to wipe out all life on Earth, even after hours of bombardment. Zentradi get stomped.

I know thats kinda why I sported them the entirety of their fleets at their prime..should be a bit more then..four million

[Nowhereman10]

What's more of a problem for the Zentradi when trying to do to Trek Earth or any other Federation planet the same thing they did to Earth and that other unnamed planet in the Macross universe is that they will have to deal with full blown planetary defenses, in at least some cases full coverage planetary shields as well as surface and orbital defenses.

In addition to those defenses, depending on when you set this in the Star Trek timeline, there will likely be a sizable fleet to contend with as well.

If that isn't enough, force field and deflector shielding does not appear to exist on a wide scale in the Macross universe, outside of unique technology, like the pinpoint barrier system accidently discovered on the SDF-1. So lacking shields, beaming bombs right in the middle of Zentradi ships becomes a viable tactic, along with beaming components off them.

The one really major strategic advantage the Zentradi have is their space folding drives. Those allow major, nearly instantaneous movement across thousands of light years, and it makes Federation ships following a retreating Zentradi fleet to finish them off extremely difficult, if not outright impossible... However if the Federation captures and learns to duplicate the fold space drive... Well, it's really all over for the Zentradi.

[Mr. Oragahn]

The Dominion the UFP and Romulan and Klingon star Empires about..fifteen years after the Dominion War are discovered by the Zentreadi fearing these "microns" running wild in the galaxy could cause contamination they dispatch the main boddle fleet..Breetai and..as well as Meltrani (the female) fleet as back up

while the fire power edge seems to clearly rest on the side of the Feds and co can they handle the industrial might of the fighting Giants or their vast numbers?

Hello!
Would it be possible if you could use basic colour for your text. That blue may look nice but it really makes reading very difficult.

We've seen in "The Die Is Cast", that 20 Romulan and Cardassian ships were enough to destroy 30% of an Earth-sized planet's crust in just a few seconds. IIRC, 4.8 million Zentradi ships weren't even enough to wipe out all life on Earth, even after hours of bombardment. Zentradi get stomped.

It's generally agreed that the weapons used there were very special, and obviously not good enough to use in a traditional engagement.

The Zentraedi have quite large fleets iirc (it's been a loooooong time). I must confess that I never really paid much attention to their fighting abilities, from a versus standpoint.
Their fighter sized ships are quite very agile, perhaps even too much for phaser banks to hit them easily, and they're good at beam spam.

[Mr. Oragahn]

The one really major strategic advantage the Zentradi have is their space folding drives. Those allow major, nearly instantaneous movement across thousands of light years, and it makes Federation ships following a retreating Zentradi fleet to finish them off extremely difficult, if not outright impossible... However if the Federation captures and learns to duplicate the fold space drive... Well, it's really all over for the Zentradi.

I'm not sure they'd easily retroengineer it in time, but they'd surely have the means to easily capture those ships, if they can beam the giant crews out. That said I don't know what's the biggest volume a typical large Trek ship has ever beamed away. Do you have an idea?

[Admiral Breetai]

the combined Zentreadi armadas from before the fall of the protculture civilization was..something like ninety billion in total this got whittled down but there where still a dozen or so fleets made of millions of ships operation in or around the milky way

I was under the impression that the glassing of that world Breetai did one episode when they captured misa hayase and co was done with just his command ship and some limited back up

sorry for the color shceme

[Nowhereman10]

I was under the impression that the glassing of that world Breetai did one episode when they captured misa hayase and co was done with just his command ship and some limited back up

No, they were on Dolza's (Golg Boddole Zer's) 1,400 km Fulbtzs Berrentzs class Home Base at the time being interrogated during the episode "First Contact" "Fāsuto Kontakuto" (ファースト·コンタクト) .

Here's the crappy english dub version on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_EM6nFcRvs at 5:55 onward. They used a very sizable fleet there to wipe out that one planet, though for some reason it only took them a few seconds there compared to the battle over Earth at the end of the series. Perhaps the fleet in "First Contact" was able to focus on that task solely to the exclusion of all else, whereas in the final battle at Earth, there were two fleets, plus the SDF-1 all fighting amongst each other, and Dolza's fleet could not focus solely on that task, especially when the Grand Cannon wiped out a signficant amount of his fleet as well as Minmay's singing caused a great deal of confusion amongst the rest of them.

[Lucky]

It's generally agreed that the weapons used there were very special, and obviously not good enough to use in a traditional engagement.

That's what you want to be the case. We have plenty of evidence that standard weapons are all that is needed to perform a G24 like in TDIC.

The E-D drilled about 3000 kilometers into a planet in 19 seconds, and you could see the blue sky when you looked up from the bottom of the hole for example.

[User1356]

The Zentraedi have 1-2000 fleets of ~ 5 million ships most of which can survive multiple hits from megaton class weapons as of 2012 after almost 500,000 years of war against the Supervision Army.