Movie Transformers deal on Coruscant:: Active All Spark

[Mr. Oragahn]

Phase 1:

Do you think the Empire could handle it if, by the time of the beginning of ANH, an All Spark managed to find its way on the surface of Coruscant... and got activated?

What could the Empire do to contain the spawn of Decepticons, in a relative short amount of time, with the loca forces, and eventually nearby system reinforcements?

Phase 2:

If the Decepticons manage to escape Coruscant, they intend to plant the All Spark in the Death Star.

Could the Empire stop this from happening?

[Cpl Kendall]

Pfft, the Transformers from Bay's movie get damaged from SABOT rounds which only travel around 5000 m/s and weigh around 14 kg (although I understand he screwed it up and they actually used HEAT rounds in the movie, I haven't seen it). The only problem on the capital will be the vast numbers the all spark will generate. The forces on Coruscant should be able to handle it with the sources in system and if not reinforcements are less than a day away.

Phase 2:

Why not?

How are they going to find the Death Star? There's no reason why they should be able to gain access to classified military information. MOst of that would be encrypted at best and at worst, the Emperor would be the only one who would know where it is. Good luck getting him to reveal where it is. Even if they find it, how are they going to fight their way past the horde of TIE Fighters and attending troops on board the Death Star in order to plant it somewhere where it would transform the vessel into a Decepticon?

[Mr. Oragahn]

Pfft, the Transformers from Bay's movie get damaged from SABOT rounds which only travel around 5000 m/s and weigh around 14 kg (although I understand he screwed it up and they actually used HEAT rounds in the movie, I haven't seen it).

The strongest Decepticons could take a hell of a pounding before going down, especially direct hits from Autobot weapons.
In Star Wars as a whole,

The only problem on the capital will be the vast numbers the all spark will generate. The forces on Coruscant should be able to handle it with the sources in system and if not reinforcements are less than a day away.

I'm clearly not so sure of that. Coruscant is just a planet city. Plenty of places to hide, fully covered by artificial metallic structures, precisely the stuff that the All Spark transforms into robots of corresponding size.

Not to forget that the robots all have the ability to morph their external layer to perfectly mimic the external layout of objects of volumes relatively similar to theirs. And this within less than a very few seconds.

Besides, the Decepticons didn't go out in the open. They kept a low profile, until they needed to act agressively in order to reach information.
The smaller robot has proven that it's fairly aware of its limitations, and wouldn't openly engage more powerful targets or larger numbers if it's not a requisite.
Other Decepticons did the same.

You simply have to consider that all machines are potential Decepticons. Droids, datapads, communicators, guns, rocket launchers, vessels, even immobile automatised structures, like base, power generators and else, can be turned into Decepticons.

It will be particularily interesting to see a whole building become a highly sentient and intelligent machine hellbent on killing all other lifeforms.

The question, here, is to know how the decepticons will use the All Spark, notably how they'll operate to transform more and more machines.

Phase 2:

A reminder:

PHASE 2 occurs if Coruscant is under Decepticon control.

Why not?
How are they going to find the Death Star?

Either fooling the Empire forces, notably Tarkin, into making him believe that it is necessary to return to Coruscant. This could be achieved without victory, though I considered phase 2 occuring after Coruscant was under Decepticon control.

They can also access high level information from Palpatine's quarters.

But the most likely, is that controlling Coruscant, and having a vast army at disposal, will leave the imperial forces no other choice but come to Coruscant with the Death Star, and attempt busting it.

There's no reason why they should be able to gain access to classified military information.

The same reason they did get access to highly classified military information in the movie, durin the assault on the base in Qatar.

MOst of that would be encrypted at best and at worst, the Emperor would be the only one who would know where it is.

Encryption shouldn't be a problem at all.
These robots have the ability to analyze, process information and use to reshape themselves at will, understand all of internet in a very limited amount of time, and do things the military couldn't understand nor imagine possible, during the Qatar hacking.

Good luck getting him to reveal where it is.

I don't think it would be necessary. It is likely that the Emperor is able to communicate with Tarkin from his place on Coruscant. This means that somewhere, in the computer, the location of the Death Star is constantly updated and known.

Even if they find it, how are they going to fight their way past the horde of TIE Fighters and attending troops on board the Death Star in order to plant it somewhere where it would transform the vessel into a Decepticon?

Probably with the complete ressources available on Coruscant.
We're talking about using a large portion of the surface-city's mass and army to create legions of machines of various sizes. Anything from infiltration units to ass-raping big honkin guns.



---- ADDITION ----

Since it is necessary to have someone activate the All Spark, there's a need for clarification here.

- Megatron is on Coruscant. He keeps his cybertronian jet form.
- Starscream hides as one of the most powerful starfighters, of a size close to the F-22 Raptor. Say an advanced TIE fighter, or TIE bomber. If this had happened between AOTC and ROTS, he'd probably have been an ARC-170 fighter.
- Blackout would obviously turn into a heavily armed troop transport, such as the imperial one seen in ANH on Tatooine, loosely based on the Lambda shuttle. If this had happened between AOTC and ROTS, he'd have turned into a LAAT.
- Brawl takes the form of whatever of that period is closest to a tank. If this had happened between AOTC and ROTS, he'd have turned into a AT-TE. If Brawl can't find anything close to that, let's say that he finds an old AT-TE and assumes its form and function.
- Frenzy is there as well.
- Scorponok is there, under its classic scorpion form. He'll wander in the dark and gritty bowels of Coruscant.
- Barricade and Swindle assume the shape of military landspeeders.
- Bonecrusher assumes an AT-AT form, or a ROTS juggernaught if the former is impossible.

They all figured out a way on Coruscant, in the Nemesis, their transport ship (Transformers: Ghosts of Yesterday).




Phase 2:

Why not?

How are they going to find the Death Star? There's no reason why they should be able to gain access to classified military information. MOst of that would be encrypted at best and at worst, the Emperor would be the only one who would know where it is. Good luck getting him to reveal where it is. Even if they find it, how are they going to fight their way past the horde of TIE Fighters and attending troops on board the Death Star in order to plant it somewhere where it would transform the vessel into a Decepticon?[/quote]

[watchdog]

I just had a vision of a transforming Star Destroyer launching transforming Tie Fighters. I recall they released some star wars transormers with the release of ROTS. In a related story;

I dont think the Death Star will survive long.

[Mr. Oragahn]

This thing does not exist in the film.

Besides, what an absolutely craptastic drawing.

[watchdog]

This thing does not exist in the film.

Besides, what an absolutely craptastic drawing.

Not in the new film no, but Unicron is from a Transformers movie.

[Mr. Oragahn]

The one where they blast through his eye in the end?

I really like the way they're made in the live action flick from this year.
They're extremely adaptative, especially in the way they can quickscan a vessel and have their protohull quickly replicate the system to every single bit, they are... err... very sentient (if you allow me the expression), have lots of charisma and different levels of power, without too much wank.

It's just sad that the All Spark was destroyed at the end.

[Sideswipe]

What happened to Unicron's left arm?

[Mike DiCenso]

I'am guessing that the Death Star managed to get off a shot from the superlaser, destroying his arm, and now Unicron is going to pop the Death Star like a tin can. ;-)
-Mike