The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:43 pm

The ICS handwaves heat problems with neutrino radiators, at least when it comes to shields. Plus another rack of simpler dissipation techniques using vacuum.

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Lucky » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:23 am

Mr. Oragahn wrote:The ICS handwaves heat problems with neutrino radiators, at least when it comes to shields. Plus another rack of simpler dissipation techniques using vacuum.
http://www.phombo.com/technology/star-w ... l/popular/
That isn't what the page says about the DBY-827. The page specifically says they have cooling fins on the top, and vents to expel spent coolants and gases. That says they have problems with heat when used. There is no mention of neutrino radiators you speak of on a Venator.

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:33 pm

I haven't checked. I know that neutrino radiators are related to shields notably, yet I can't remember seeing any line pointing to a specific piece of hardware of a Venator saying that this is a neutrino radiator, but perhaps you could find one, dunno. I was just throwing it in the wind.
Note that if it counts on mere fins and such "low tech" to cool down, those guns would probably barely manage a constant barrage of low gigajoule fire. I mean, look, even on a world like Mustafar, they considered that the only way to avoid their structure being damaged by lava was to shield them. They didn't have metals that would magically handle lava splashes.
Besides it's really odd to count on fins only, since cooling by radiation is not so effective.

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Lucky » Sat Sep 08, 2012 5:49 am

Mr. Oragahn wrote:I haven't checked. I know that neutrino radiators are related to shields notably, yet I can't remember seeing any line pointing to a specific piece of hardware of a Venator saying that this is a neutrino radiator, but perhaps you could find one, dunno. I was just throwing it in the wind.
Note that if it counts on mere fins and such "low tech" to cool down, those guns would probably barely manage a constant barrage of low gigajoule fire. I mean, look, even on a world like Mustafar, they considered that the only way to avoid their structure being damaged by lava was to shield them. They didn't have metals that would magically handle lava splashes.
Besides it's really odd to count on fins only, since cooling by radiation is not so effective.
I found the netrino radiators. They seem to be limited to only the weaker ships for some reason.
http://img.phombo.com/img1/photocombo/72/Ep3-008.jpg

The ICS don't seem to say what a number of so called warries say they do as if they never read the books themselves?

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Lucky » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:51 am

Invisible Hand
http://www.phombo.com/technology/star-w ... l/popular/#
Quad turbolaser cannon's maximum yield is equivalent to magnitude-10 earthquake
A magnitude 10 earthquake is a release of about 63 exajoules or about 15 gigatons according to: http://www.convertalot.com/earthquake_p ... lator.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale

This means two things if the ICS are to be believed:
1) A lightly armed troop transport that is never used in combat or even fires has weapons 13 times more powerful then a heavily armed front line warship.

2) Even if a true warship can transfer its reactor output to its weapons, the weapons have a set maximum output in the Invisible Hands case, and implied in the Venator class.

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Sun Oct 07, 2012 3:21 pm

Lucky wrote:Invisible Hand
http://www.phombo.com/technology/star-w ... l/popular/#
Quad turbolaser cannon's maximum yield is equivalent to magnitude-10 earthquake
A magnitude 10 earthquake is a release of about 63 exajoules or about 15 gigatons according to: http://www.convertalot.com/earthquake_p ... lator.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale

This means two things if the ICS are to be believed:
1) A lightly armed troop transport that is never used in combat or even fires has weapons 13 times more powerful then a heavily armed front line warship.

2) Even if a true warship can transfer its reactor output to its weapons, the weapons have a set maximum output in the Invisible Hands case, and implied in the Venator class.
You may want to take a look at those two posts of mine:

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 534#p24534
http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 191#p24191

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Lucky » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:34 am

Lucky wrote:Invisible Hand
http://www.phombo.com/technology/star-w ... l/popular/#
Quad turbolaser cannon's maximum yield is equivalent to magnitude-10 earthquake
A magnitude 10 earthquake is a release of about 63 exajoules or about 15 gigatons according to: http://www.convertalot.com/earthquake_p ... lator.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richter_magnitude_scale

This means two things if the ICS are to be believed:
1) A lightly armed troop transport that is never used in combat or even fires has weapons 13 times more powerful then a heavily armed front line warship.
2) Even if a true warship can transfer its reactor output to its weapons, the weapons have a set maximum output in the Invisible Hands case, and implied in the Venator class.
Mr. Oragahn wrote: You may want to take a look at those two posts of mine:

http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 534#p24534
http://www.starfleetjedi.net/forum/view ... 191#p24191
What am I suppose to be looking for?

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by mojo » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:32 am

where the hell did breetai go?

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Mike DiCenso » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:22 am

Not sure. He kind of disappeared after SWST was permabanned. Have you tried paging him recently?
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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Praeothmin » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:15 pm

I think RL is kicking him in the butt hard...

He pops up once a while in the Fanfic section when he has the time...

He should be around soon I guess... :)

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by mojo » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:39 am

Mike DiCenso wrote:Not sure. He kind of disappeared after SWST was permabanned. Have you tried paging him recently?
-Mike
i thought that might happen. i think i would have probably lost all interest in the board myself if i hadn't had you to shift my unhealthy obsession to.

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by mojo » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:39 am

Mike DiCenso wrote:Not sure. He kind of disappeared after SWST was permabanned. Have you tried paging him recently?
-Mike
i thought that might happen. i think i would have probably lost all interest in the board myself if i hadn't had you to shift my unhealthy obsession to.

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Lucky » Sun Nov 04, 2012 4:59 am

Mr. Oragahn wrote:Image
I'm asking why you are posting those links to other threads?

Is it for some recognition that you came to a similar conclusion on your own, but did not bother to repost the information in this thread? I did all my own work, and was not aware of those posts.

Are you disagreeing with me in some way?

I have no idea as to why you want me to look at your posts. What am I suppose to be looking for?

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Re: The Incredible Cross Sections: Poorly Proofread?

Post by Mr. Oragahn » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:28 pm

Lucky wrote: I'm asking why you are posting those links to other threads?

Is it for some recognition that you came to a similar conclusion on your own, but did not bother to repost the information in this thread? I did all my own work, and was not aware of those posts.

Are you disagreeing with me in some way?

I have no idea as to why you want me to look at your posts. What am I suppose to be looking for?
Can't remember. :D
I guess I was perhaps pointing out that I had already provided the data and pictures from the ROTS ICS on page 7 of our BDZ thread, and even commented on them and their implications in the first larger post I linked to (a post you have to scroll down to get to the relevant paragraph).

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